pengadvb
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:35 pm
There are two submissions, currently, on pengadvb romset [Penguin Adventure (bootleg of MSX version, encrypted)]
http://replay.marpirc.net/r/pengadvb
There are a few things to say about this game, in regards of credits and score. Hence why I'd suggest to put up a special box rules. (This topic would have been proper for Regulation Play threads, but you'll read later why it's in Playbackability)
The credits are time based, the game alerts you when time is up by beeping loudly, as there is no time indicator on screen.
But because game has its own lives system, there are then two ways to end a game, by not feeding credits to machine or by exhausting lives.
I believe we should adopt, then, the same method we use for PlayChoice-10 games or some sports games, that is unlimited credits but the first game only counts.
The score too isn't displayed on screen at any time. Well, except for one frame.
One literal frame at the end of a game, shows the score. But not even at any time a game ends; it won't be shown if you complete the game; nor if your game ends by not feeding credits. You can only read hiscore and current score by running out of lives.
This explains why Novice, on his replay, completed the game on the first attempt, then restarted a second game only to lose lives at enemies on stage 3. If you pause at just the right time and frame advance slowly, you can see the magic frame with a score.
(see attachment)
From the screenshot I can deduct that 440710 is the score of the previous game, 4470 the one from the wasted game.
This is why I posted in Playbackability. I can't match it with the claimed score, 434500. The playbacking speed doesn't affect this (I tried 1x and 7x speed, both -fs 0 and max fs, no change).
Phil Lamat confirmed me via mail he got 440710 as well.
saulonpb's score is also wrong, he may have assumed there was no score system at all. 1120 is his actual score.
Hisa, if you read, if you know how to recreate on playback the 434500 score, that would be great. Otherwise I'm clueless on what happened.
http://replay.marpirc.net/r/pengadvb
There are a few things to say about this game, in regards of credits and score. Hence why I'd suggest to put up a special box rules. (This topic would have been proper for Regulation Play threads, but you'll read later why it's in Playbackability)
The credits are time based, the game alerts you when time is up by beeping loudly, as there is no time indicator on screen.
But because game has its own lives system, there are then two ways to end a game, by not feeding credits to machine or by exhausting lives.
I believe we should adopt, then, the same method we use for PlayChoice-10 games or some sports games, that is unlimited credits but the first game only counts.
The score too isn't displayed on screen at any time. Well, except for one frame.
One literal frame at the end of a game, shows the score. But not even at any time a game ends; it won't be shown if you complete the game; nor if your game ends by not feeding credits. You can only read hiscore and current score by running out of lives.
This explains why Novice, on his replay, completed the game on the first attempt, then restarted a second game only to lose lives at enemies on stage 3. If you pause at just the right time and frame advance slowly, you can see the magic frame with a score.
(see attachment)
From the screenshot I can deduct that 440710 is the score of the previous game, 4470 the one from the wasted game.
This is why I posted in Playbackability. I can't match it with the claimed score, 434500. The playbacking speed doesn't affect this (I tried 1x and 7x speed, both -fs 0 and max fs, no change).
Phil Lamat confirmed me via mail he got 440710 as well.
saulonpb's score is also wrong, he may have assumed there was no score system at all. 1120 is his actual score.
Hisa, if you read, if you know how to recreate on playback the 434500 score, that would be great. Otherwise I'm clueless on what happened.
