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Re: IGBY 2

Post by hanasu » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:29 pm

Since we're under time pressure here and don't want to hold the tournament up, I am fine with TP84, Shock Troopers, and SF2CE.

However I think excluding Twin Cobra is a needless strategic mistake.

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by The_Pro » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:38 pm

Shock Troopers (shocktro)
Time Pilot '84 (tp84) - Use Difficulty Hard which is current MAME default
Street Fighter II Champion Edition (sf2ce)

Alternates:
Twin Cobra (twincobr)
Golden Axe (goldnaxe) - No Magic allowed - Use Strength for scoring
Black Widow (bwidow)

This is fine with me, though I really hope Turbo Outrun is confirmed elsewhere or I will be sad. Though I do prefer Twin Cobra to Time Pilot 84 personally and in terms of potential points, I'm ok with letting that go.
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Re: IGBY 2

Post by pat33999 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:46 pm

I'd do better with Twin Cobra over Time Pilot, but I understand that TP won the vote, and I'm fine with that.

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by Zhorik » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:27 pm

Games have been submitted to Wolfman24. We submitted:

Games:

Shock Troopers (shocktro)

Time Pilot '84 (tp84) - Use Difficulty Hard which is current MAME default. In older versions of MAME (e.g. .106 and .101) you will need to change it to Difficulty Hard

Street Fighter II': Champion Edition (World 920313) (this is sf2ceea in the latest versions of MAME but is the old sf2ce parent romset if you are using .106)

Alternates:

Twin Cobra (twincobr)

Golden Axe (goldnaxe) - No Magic allowed - Use Strength for scoring

Black Widow (bwidow)

Thanks to everybody for helping us work through this!


We've got another 28 hours to recruit more members. We can register new members for Team MARP until June 30th 11:59PM EST(which is July 1st 3:59AM GMT)! So if you have any friends that haven't signed up yet, put some pressure on them to join the fun!

After that deadline, players can still join the tournament until July 7th 11:59PM EST, but they will be RANDOMLY assigned to a team.

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by The TJT » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:58 pm

Any info yet what other teams have chosen?

BBH mentioned DK 2 hack... tried a couple games... hard.

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by OMG Kreygasm » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:48 pm

RU Games
Mr. Do!’s Wild Ride
ROMSet: dowild
Freeze: Off
Difficulty: 1 [Beginner]
Rack Test: Off
Flip Screen: Off
Difficulty of Extra: Easy
Cabinet: Upright
Special: Given
Lives: 3
Special Rules: None

Triple Punch
ROMSet: triplep
Lives: 3
Cabinet: Upright
Service Mode: Off
Rack Test [Cheat]: Off
Special Rules: None

Turbo OutRun
ROMSet: toutrun (if using 0.126 - 0.137, use toutrunu)
Cabinet: Cockpit Conversion
Turbo: Optional
Difficulty: Normal
Special Rules: Continues are NOT allowed!


TG Games
Space Fury
ROMSet: spacfury
Cabinet: Upright
Lives: 5
Difficulty: easy
Bonus Life: 30000
Special Rules: None

Time Scanner
ROMSet: timescan
Flip Screen: Off
Out Lane Pin: Near
Special: 2 credit
Allow Continue: No
Unused: Off [All]
Cabinet: Upright
Bonus: Replay Credit 1200000
Match: Off
Pin Rebound: Well
Lives: 3
Special Rules: Continues are NOT allowed!

Asteroids Deluxe
ROMSet: astdelux
Lives: 2-4
Minimum Plays: 1
Difficulty: Hard
Bonus Life: 10,000
Special Rules: None

CAGDC Games
Ms. Pac-Man
ROMSet: mspacman
Rack Test [Cheat]: Off
Service Mode: Off
Cabinet: Upright
Lives: 3
Bonus Life: 10000
Difficulty: Normal
2x Speed Cheat: Disabled [not available in all versions]
Special Rules: None

Tetris Plus 2 - Puzzle Mode
ROMSet: tetrisp2
Free Play: Off
Service Mode: Off
Difficulty: Normal
VS. Mode Rounds: 3
Language: English
F.B.I. Logo: Off
Voice: On
Flip Screen: Off
Special Rules: You may freely choose your character and path. Continues are NOT allowed!

Super Breakout (Progressive)
ROMSet: sbrkout-pro
extend play: none
Lives: 3
Special Rules: The above are the default internal settings for this title and need not be changed. Continues Are NOT allowed!

DKF Games
Donkey Kong 3
ROMSet: dkong3
Unknown: Off [All]
Cabinet: Upright
Lives: 3
Bonus Life: 30000
Addtional Bonus: 30000
Difficulty: easy
Special Rules: None

D2K: Jumpman Returns
ROMset: dkongx (0.140+ must be used)
Lives: 6
Bonus: 7,000
DK High Score: Player's Choice
D2K High Score: Player's Choice
Coinage: Player's Choice
Boot Timeout: Player's Choice
Startup Game: D2K
Attract Sound: Player's Choice
Note: D2K was added to MAME in version 0.139u2. Prior versions cannot be used.

Tutankham
ROMSet: tutankhm
Lives: 3
Cabinet: Upright
Bonus Life: 30000
Difficulty: normal
Flash Bomb: 1 Per Life
Special Rules: None

AtariAge / High Score Games
Rainbow Island (new)
ROMSet: rainbow (before 0.145) / rbisland (0.145+)
Cabinet: Upright
Flip Screen: Off
Service Mode: Off
Difficulty: Medium
Bonus Life: 100k, 1000k
Complete Bonus: 1 Up
Lives: 3
Language: English
Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY variation! Continues are NOT allowed!

Strikers 1945
ROMSet: s1945
Flip screen: Off
Difficulty: Normal
Lives: 3
Bonus Life: 600K
Service Mode: Off
Country: World
Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY Variation! You may freely choose your Pilot. Continues are NOT allowed!

Son Son
ROMSet: sonson
Service Mode: Off
Lives: 3
2 Players Game: 2 Credits
Bonus Life: 20000 80000 100000
Difficulty: Medium / Normal
Freeze: Off
Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY Variation!

MARP Games
Shock Troopers
ROMSet: shocktro and neogeo
Territory: USA
Machine Mode: ARCADE
Game Slots: 2
Continue: Off
Demo Sound: ON
How To Play: ON
Difficulty: LEVEL 4
Credit/Level: ON/ON
Violence: ON or OFF
Language: English
Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY Variation! You may freely select any available character and path after Mission 1. Continues are NOT allowed!

Street Fighter II': Champion Edition
ROMset: sf2ce (before 0.140) / sf2ceea (0.140+)
Coin A: 1 Coin / 1 Credit
Coin B: 1 Coin / 1 Credit
2 Coins to Start, 1 to Continue: Off
Unused: Off
Difficulty: 4
Free Play: Off
Freeze: Off
Flip screen: Off
Demo Sounds: On
Allow Continue: No
Game Mode: Game

Time Pilot '84
ROMSet: tp84
Lives: 3
Cabinet: Upright
Bonus Life: 20000 and every 60000
Difficulty: Hard
Special Rules: None

Aussie Arcade Games
Lady Bug
ROMSet: ladybug
Difficulty: easy
Rack Test [Cheat]: Off
Freeze: Off
Cabinet: Upright
Free Play: No
Lives: 3
Special Rules: Extra Lives can be obtained by spelling Extra.

Turtles
ROMSet: turtles
Lives: 4
Cabinet: Upright
Unknown: On [Both]
Special Note: You can earn 1 Extra Life at 5000 Points.

10-Yard Fight (World)
ROMset: 10yard (0.109+ must be used)
Time Reduced by Ball Dead: Normal
Coinage: 1 Coin/ 1 Credit
Flip Screen: Off
Cabinet: Upright
Coin Mode: Mode 1
Slow Motion: Off
Stop Mode: Off
Level Select: Off
Invulnerability: Off
Service Mode: Off

GameEx Games
Gekisou
ROMSet: gekisou (broken before 0.124)
Internal Defaults
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1-8: On

Star Force
ROMSet: starforc
Lives: 3
Cabinet: Upright
Bonus Life: 50k, 200k and 500k
Difficulty: easiest
Unknown: Off [Both]
Special Rules: None

Star Fighter
ROMset: starfigh (broken before 0.148)
Lives: 3
Bonus Life: None
Difficulty: Normal
Play Together: Yes
Cabinet: Upright
Flip Screen: Off
Demo Sounds: On
Service Mode: Off
Coinage: 1 Coin/1 Credit


PNS Games
Battle Garegga
ROMSet: bgaregga (0.117+) / battlega (before 0.117)
Difficulty: Medium
Flip screen: Off
Lives: 3
Bonus Life: every 1000k
Stage Edit: Off
Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY Variation! You may freely choose from any available ship. Continues are NOT allowed!

Mustache Boy
ROMSet: mustache (may need t5182)
Cabinet: Upright
Difficulty: Normal
Lives: 3
Service Mode: Off
Free Play: Off
Special Rules: Continues are NOT allowed!

Bubble Bobble 2
ROMSet: bublbob2
Game Style: 2P Game [D] [Internal Default]
Difficulty: Normal [Internal Default]
Player Stock: 3 [Internal Default]
Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY Variation! You may freely choose from any available character. Continues are NOT allowed!

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by Zhorik » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:12 pm

I've also been told special rules include:

Bubble Bobble 2 and Rainbow Islands - No special codes allowed
10 Yard Fight - No leeching on Stage 1 like destructor does in his 1st place score at MARP

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by The TJT » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:21 pm

A few good old school games there...nice!

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by BeeJay » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:18 pm

That's a fairly good spread of game styles. Quite a few that I like, but am not necessarily good at, so should be a fun tournament until a game gets 'owned' by too many people to make it worth competing on.

Also, most of them should run at full speed on the quite old PC that I currently have solely dedicated for Mame, so I shouldn't need to annoy the kids by 'taking over' one of our newer machines too often. :)

Cheers,
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Re: IGBY 2

Post by Shahbaz » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:05 pm

Best of luck Marp Team.

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by pat33999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:01 am

1. There's no "Every 1000K" setting for the Bonus Life in Battle Garegga. The only choices are "None" and "Every 2000K".

2. Which BIOS do we use for Shock Troopers?

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by Zhorik » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:50 am

Tournament starts in less than forty minutes at 12AM Eastern Time tonight (4AM GMT)! A screenshot is strictly required for all scores, but let's lead by example and try to have WolfMAME .inp files for all MAME scores, and stream if you can.
pat33999 wrote:Which BIOS do we use for Shock Troopers?
Shock Troopers
ROMSet: shocktro and neogeo
Territory: USA (set bios to “US MVS”)

Updated Special Rules for Battle Garegga allow Mahou Daisakusen code:

Battle Garegga
ROMSet: bgaregga (0.117+) / battlega (before 0.117)
Difficulty: Medium / Normal
Flip screen: Off
Lives: 3
Bonus Life: None
Stage Edit: Off
Territory / Game Region: Japan
Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY Variation! You may freely choose from any available ship. Mahou Daisakusen code IS allowed (Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, C, Start). Continues are NOT allowed!

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An additional game was added by the tournament organizer:

Intrepid
ROMSet: intrepid
Invulnerability (Cheat): Off
Difficulty: Easy
Bonus Life: 10000
Lives: 5

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Some clarification on how scoring works:

For each game, the top 5 scores for each team on that game are combined in a list which is sorted by score. We have 9 teams, so there will be 45 scores, 5 from each team. The 1st place score from that list gets 45 points, 2nd place gets 44 points, and so forth until the last place score gets 1 point. Each team's score on that game is the sum of the 5 scores for it's team. So a perfect team score on a game, for example Street Fighter 2, would be to have places 1-5 on that game which would score 45+44+43+42+41 = 215 points. The worse team score would occur if you get places 41-45 on the game and get only 5+4+3+2+1 = 15 points.

This is done for all 28 games. The total score for each team is the sum of their scores on all 28 games. So a perfect score would involve taking places 1-5 on every game and would be 215*28 = 6020 points.

Because of the way scoring works, most gains in points can be made by improving lower placed scores. If we can improve the placement for a score on a game from 3rd to 1st, it is only worth 2 points. But if we can improve on a game from 45th to 40th, which is probably easier to do, we pick up 5 points. In general poor placements on a game will hurt us more than 1st place scores will help us.

If you do not think you can get into the top 5 for MARP on a game, you should probably not spend time on that game. For example there is no way I will be top 5 for MARP on Street Fighter 2 so I should not spend any time playing it.

We have a lot of players so I suggest we start out by playing whatever we want to get familiar with the games, then analyze which games we have poor placements on as a team and find players willing to work on those games and that are talented at that type of game.

Good luck everyone and happy playing!

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by pat33999 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:06 am

set bios to “US MVS"
Yes, I know that already, but which one? There are two, "US MVS (Ver. 1)" and "US MVS (Ver. 2?)". Or does it not matter?

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by Zhorik » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:24 am

pat33999 wrote:
set bios to “US MVS"
Yes, I know that already, but which one? There are two, "US MVS (Ver. 1)" and "US MVS (Ver. 2?)". Or does it not matter?
Per BBH, use Ver 2.

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Re: IGBY 2

Post by wolfman24 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:06 pm

want to try and get a list of streamers for the event
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vIJJN3 ... 0/viewform

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