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The fall of the Gods

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:37 pm
by Cicca
Todd Rogers first, and Billy Mitchell then.....one never did the claimed score, the other cheated in a ridiculous way.....looks like we'd regret PAC...at least, he used to cheat in a more talented way.... :roll:
What do you guys, with much deeper knowledge in the arcades than me, think about the matter, and on TG ...?!?

Re: The fall of the Gods

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:25 am
by Novice
Cicca wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:37 pm
Todd Rogers first, and Billy Mitchell then.....one never did the claimed score, the other cheated in a ridiculous way.....looks like we'd regret PAC...at least, he used to cheat in a more talented way.... :roll:
What do you guys, with much deeper knowledge in the arcades than me, think about the matter, and on TG ...?!?
DEFCON=3
Just my personal opinion.
"most of top players are not interested in local fake database."

Re: The fall of the Gods

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:16 am
by giro-X
I've read a lot about these, actually just from private messages/chats with people interested about the facts... tbh, I'm not really sure I fully understood everything in detail, and a true topic put under discussion here is about TG's way of authentication of scores, which I personally poorly know - so I can't really express myself there.

One sure thing I'd like to disagree with, there's no god falling because the players involved were not gods in the first place. Nobody would deserve that title, there's monstrous capabilities in certain players but everyone's a human and, while we hope there's always fairness where there's potential, we can't be too much surprised if we discover tricks. It's in human nature, it can come from everyone.

I appreciate all these efforts made to figure out the truth, they are always welcome. I'm not exempted from being cynic and think how many similar cases could pop up in future :/

Re: The fall of the Gods

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:33 am
by Zhorik
It's of note that the disputes of the scores of both Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell were started by MARP members (Dick Moreland and xelnia).

I 100% support the current efforts of xelnia and other MARP/Donkey Kong Forum members involved in the still open Billy Mitchell dispute. With regard to Billy Mitchell's Donkey Kong scores,in Billy's videos the way new screens are drawn matches how MAME draws and not how arcade draws. It's important to get the truth and build scoreboards with integrity.

Here's a YouTube video by Apollo Legend on the subject that has over 500K views in less than 24 hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=234Y76_3YPE