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Post by RAX » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:28 pm

TK2012 on a couple of comments writes of a possible cheat in recent inps by kbz3pa
I suggest MARP check latest kbz3pa's inps. He uses to freeze screen. For examble in turfmast-de he freezes game before every shot, check these images--> https://img.techpowerup.org/201121/cheat1.png ---> https://img.techpowerup.org/201121/cheat2.png
kbz3pa cheated in all five tmk-wds by freezing screen--> https://i.imgur.com/GSPVD4d.jpg He did the same in many others of his latest inps, like 8bpm in which he freezes game before any major shot, looks like saving state, see here---> https://i.imgur.com/esREFOL.jpg---> https://i.imgur.com/XnTM3T0.jpg---> https://i.imgur.com/0MwNWqp.jpg
Immediatly later kbz3pa deleted many inps in a row
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Re: kbz3pa

Post by xelnia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:59 am

I'm the one that confirmed the Block Out score (oops). Went back and took another look...definitely something fishy going on.

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by Zhorik » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:36 am

Xelnia shared some information with me on the replays from this player. Definitely warrants investigation.

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by dan » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:42 am

I am disappointed in him.

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Post by BBH » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:18 pm

editors are still deciding what to do I guess, but I'll just come out and say how I feel. He shouldn't be allowed at MARP any more. This is the exact same cheat that PAC used a few years back, deliberate use of an outside way to savestate and cheat recordings. Only difference here is that once he got busted, he didn't lie to everyone that his recordings were legit, he went into immediate panic mode to attempt to cover up his fraudulent recordings since he knew the jig was up. But then like PAC, he is going back to submitting recordings and trying to pretend that nothing's wrong, that he's always played honestly.

Nah.

I know participation at MARP in general is a lot lower than it was in past years, but I still feel that anyone that knowingly and deliberately uses outside cheats shouldn't be welcome here any more. Go make your own TAS recordings for youtube or whereever else you want to upload them, we shouldn't have to deal with this cheatery any more.

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by Cicca » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:40 am

I personally 100% agree with BBH.....allowing just a single cheater to post scores will jeopardize decades of reputation, of MARP site itself, known as a place with strong concern about legit scores, and of all members, that always have been playing with unquestionable skills and honesty....

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by dan » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:10 am

Why doesn't he make an excuse or explanation here?
I can't understand his indifference.

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by RAX » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:49 am

Same feeling here.
He started submitting new replays whistling as nothing happened.


dan wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:10 am
Why doesn't he make an excuse or explanation here?
Actually, he did something. Sarcasm:
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And again, deleting it few moments later.

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by giro-X » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:28 am

I don't have much else to add to the conversation, just saying that I agree with BBH. You do as Pac? deserve the same treatment as his.
And of all the things that could happen this year in here, I couldn't expect this at all. The whole situation is rich of surreal details, it's mesmerizing and sad at the same time. :?

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by Phil Lamat » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:18 pm

Same as BBH, I already posted on the editors forum that I'm in favor of a ban.
Temporarily or definitely ?
Not sure if he cames back after that, I will ever trust him for sure ...

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by jarl69 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:29 pm

'm ashamed of being Spanish, Another Spanish cheating. Good image they are leaving :( I'm really sad

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by BBH » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:36 pm

RAX wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:49 am
Actually, he did something. Sarcasm:
Stuff like this is what really pisses me off. When the cheater gets busted, tries to hide it with a "legit" score and tells people to check it because they're not cheating any more. This is a really brazen attitude of "ha ha, can't catch me!" and it's deplorable. Now we have to carefully inspect every recording you upload now to make sure no cheating was done? Why are these recordings worth anyone's time now if they're coming from someone who tried to see how much they could cheat and get away with?

Look how many recordings he self-deleted - a clear sign that if nobody had spoken up about this, he would have kept going and creating more and more savestated recordings until someone caught on.

This isn't like an isolated instance of "whoops I left autofire on" or "whoops I didn't notice the game was running too slow" - this is repeated and deliberate non-accidental use of an outside virtual machine to savestate the game and repeatedly reload until you get the desired result. This is exactly what PAC did 5 years ago, and the PAC incident should have set a very clear precedent that if you get caught trying to do stuff like this at MARP, you're not going to be welcome here any more.

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by Cicca » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:25 am

jarl69 wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:29 pm
.....Another Spanish cheating......
BBH wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:36 pm
.....This is exactly what PAC did 5 years ago......

1+1 always gives 2 :D ....very likely, he's PAC....
Is there any chance to determine if he is, or at least, could probably be, really him.... ?!?

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by Phil Lamat » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:33 am

I don't think it's the same person.
Kbz is here since 2000 (he was known as Mocha before)

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Re: kbz3pa

Post by Zhorik » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:58 pm

I agree with others. Should be treated same as PAC. All scores by him on all games zeroed with a comment added and a link to this thread that he cheated.

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