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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 9:07 pm
by Chad
yep i agree, but many may not, so we play it safe for a while. And it's not like they would be deleted they'd just be moved to a non tgmame place. And it's taken zwaxy 3 months to attempt blocking in the site and i doubt he's even made an effort at it because it's too complicated. I'll bet he could whip up a dual area site (tgmame, regularmame) a lot quicker, it would be basically like making a tournament area but the submits would go where the mame type tells it to go.

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 10:46 pm
by Francois Daniel
Chad wrote:yep i agree, but many may not, so we play it safe for a while. And it's not like they would be deleted they'd just be moved to a non tgmame place. And it's taken zwaxy 3 months to attempt blocking in the site and i doubt he's even made an effort at it because it's too complicated. I'll bet he could whip up a dual area site (tgmame, regularmame) a lot quicker, it would be basically like making a tournament area but the submits would go where the mame type tells it to go.
It's hard but I think it's a good idea. That may give a new start for play and submit again on games we have already submit on reguar mame. And perhaps we cant break some records. :)

Francois

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:36 am
by Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
I hate doing this... sigh...

http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... 00&tourn=0

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/5/0/0/fg ... _win68.zip

meanwhile, I upgraded every single one of my MK recordings a while back with Alphamame compliant versions :( so This requires a block :(


Kelly

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:12 am
by Blost

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:55 am
by Mickey

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:27 am
by Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
sigh...

http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... 00&tourn=0

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/2/b/4/fg ... _win68.zip

I am really feeling like shit for this... the guy's got some serious talent.. but isn't using Alphamame... almost like everyone in the class is reading the new Harry Potter book and he's reading Cat In The Hat... well alright.. piss poor analogy.. so sue me.. butcha get what I mean...


Kelly

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:45 pm
by LN2
Instead of just noting it here in the forums....E-MAIL the guy and let him know what's going on so he doesn't "waste" more time playing with regular mame.

He does show his e-mail here at MARP.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:15 pm
by Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
LN2 wrote:Instead of just noting it here in the forums....E-MAIL the guy and let him know what's going on so he doesn't "waste" more time playing with regular mame.

He does show his e-mail here at MARP.
Already been done, with no reply, to quite frankly, no big surprise.


Kelly

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:48 am
by Chad
yeah i've blocked sakais twice and no response, he must only be able to read kanji. there's always a third time, oh it would be nice to have separated areas where blocking wouldn't be needed...

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:29 am
by MDenham
Mmm... can we just have the blocking work as "if there's an Alphamame recording on this game, all non-AM recordings get 0LB points, but show up with the correct scores", or would that require too much work?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:33 am
by LN2
given the LB pts are automatically set based on the score...that's why blocking currently involves manual adjustment of the score so it's 1 point below the lowest alphamame score.

I agree though it would be nice if the score could still show etc. but just exclude that one from LB point calculations.

...hmmm....perhaps it could be treated like the K3 event etc. where you have a separate asterisk in front so it gets no points...although currently that would result in the score being listed separately from the normal game....but at least it would still show the actual score...and assign 0 LB pts. Plus, you wouldn't have to worry about readjusting blocked scores or LB points if alphamame scores that are doing the blocking are improved.

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:40 am
by mahlemiut
Haven't I already suggested something similar, or was I dreaming it? :)

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:35 am
by The TJT
Yes, blocked score should not take number 1 spot at a game, even with 0 lb points. But question arises: Do we want everyone to use alphamame or not, and why? Do we use alphamame just because of leaderboard points?

Lb points are a little bit trivial imo, really do not tell much about playing skills :? (Elitistic remark: Give first place 15 points, second place 2 points, third 1 point)
The Important thing is to have massive record on THAT game :)
...Including all the clones too!



TJT (Who still likes 3rd ass from the right)

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:08 pm
by diabolik
The TJT wrote:Lb points are a little bit trivial imo, really do not tell much about playing skills :? (Elitistic remark: Give first place 15 points, second place 2 points, third 1 point)
I don't really care too much about leaderboard points either, but I like your suggestion :wink: Or maybe go back to the old 10-3-1 system. I think this would encourage some people to upload even better inps (quality over quantity). Maybe then the leaderboard would mean a little more. I've never really liked this "new" percentage scoring method, it's much too forgiving IMO.

Just ban everything except AlphaMAME --> no need for fancy blocking scripts --> problems solved!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:23 pm
by Buttermaker
I agree. AlphaMAME needs to be mandatory and the leader board should go back to 10-3-1.

With the exception of games that only work on old versions of course.