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Post by Mr. Kelly R. Flewin » Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:24 pm

As you can all witness, Notman had demonstrated to us how to go from Rags to Riches in Paperboy, taking a meager bit of points and some luck and some fine skill [I never knew you could run down the flowers!] and nailed her up past 1 billion.

Now, he has asked it be moved to the tricks n tips pages [Which I think needs an update for EVERY SINGLE INP to a more... COMMON Version... I mean come on... Mame .30?! [shakes head]] but... it does make me wonder. Now we had a ... discussion of sorts in regards to the Outrun issue.. and I doubt anyone would warm up to this idea but...

Perhaps leave one of the revisions available for those who want to use this exploit, * it and then just make it for bragging rights? I mean it'd be merely a massive marathon at that point, but I wonder if some people would actually have fun with it. I know there's people willing to go at it for hours.. [cough cough recent gauntlet scores, nibbler, cough cough]

I doubt it will happen... but.. eh.. never know till one tries.

But I gotta admit, this was a bang on demo Notman ^^


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Post by DRN » Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:46 pm

This is a very easy and well known bug and the best thing it's for is scoring 1 billion and 79 million points on top of your normal score and turning the houses mad colours.

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Post by AL » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:17 pm

Yep ,

Well known and well exploited .

However , do the shit on hard street , but crash on your extreme left-hand kerb . Should give you @60k bonus each time .

Don't do it on Middle Street , else the game fucks up ( in arcades, anyhow ).

Then again , as said before , when the 'Grandstand Trick ' is not achieveable......do the 'Lawnmower Trick '...!

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Post by LN2 » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:34 pm

Mr. Kelly R. Flewin wrote:Now we had a ... discussion of sorts in regards to the Outrun issue.. and I doubt anyone would warm up to this idea but...

Perhaps leave one of the revisions available for those who want to use this exploit, * it and then just make it for bragging rights?
Kelly, this might surprise you given Hisa's repeatedly mentioning Outrun, but the off-road trick for that is ALLOWED for all the current rom sets. Nothing was banned there...no scores or replays zeroed/deleted.

It's the reason I haven't even bothered trying to set any scores for that game...cuz I don't want to have to race off-road at full speed to be able to top others that can submit scores using that trick.

Hisa gives the impression all his tricks etc. aren't allowed here. For certain games like Outrun it is. The Cameltry trick was banned but I think even then we reached a compromise where for 1 of the rom sets the warp trick could be allowed. For the other half of that compromise we also had said let's allow the Outrun off-road trick for 1 of the rom sets...but not for the others.

Editors weren't on top of setting/updating the special rules for those games so nothing came of it. Oh well.

Overall this is the best for everyone as then there is tracking for playing the game both ways in cases like this. However, there is no satisfying certain members around here....so be it.

The consequence for me is I have not played either of those games since.

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Post by Buttermaker » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:07 pm

LN2 wrote:Kelly, this might surprise you given Hisa's repeatedly mentioning Outrun, but the off-road trick for that is ALLOWED for all the current rom sets. Nothing was banned there...no scores or replays zeroed/deleted.
Wrong. The off-road trick is only allowed in the parent ROM of Out Run.
Editors weren't on top of setting/updating the special rules for those games so nothing came of it.
http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... ort=outrun

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Post by BBH » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:35 pm

Mr. Kelly R. Flewin wrote: Now, he has asked it be moved to the tricks n tips pages [Which I think needs an update for EVERY SINGLE INP to a more... COMMON Version... I mean come on... Mame .30?! [shakes head]]
So, are you volunteering your time to re-record every single trick/bug that's on the page with a newer version? Go for it!

(too bad that in 5 years, MAME 0.77 or whatever is going to be "old" too. what can you do?)

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Post by LN2 » Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:07 am

Buttermaker wrote:Wrong. The off-road trick is only allowed in the parent ROM of Out Run.
ahh, it's been months since I last checked. I see they have added it now etc. That's nice to see.

It's odd though how even though it wasn't banned they have in a way banned the trick from 2 of the rom sets. Maybe that's what Hisa is pissed about?!?!

Well, let's do similar for Cameltry too then perhaps....allow the trick for 1 of the rom sets(and the course splits) but not for the other 2. I have no problem with that.

....just want to still have a fair competition playing it the regular way also.

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Post by Mr. Kelly R. Flewin » Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:24 am

AL wrote: Then again , as said before , when the 'Grandstand Trick ' is not achieveable......do the 'Lawnmower Trick '...!
o.o?? Grandstand Trick?? Lawnmower trick?! Please explain!



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Post by Weehawk » Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:45 am

Kelly wrote:Grandstand Trick??
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/e/6/7/sh ... wolf77.zip
Kelly wrote:Lawnmower trick?!
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/special/ ... y-lawn.zip

(Uses win35b5...this is one the ones BBH suggests you re-record with a modern MAME version.)
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Post by Buttermaker » Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:27 am

LN2 wrote:ahh, it's been months since I last checked. I see they have added it now etc.
You didn't check properly. It was added on February 22 at 20:21:29 GMT. That's less than one day after the poll ended.

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Post by LN2 » Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:48 am

Maybe I was thinking of Cameltry then.

I just checked the special rules for cameltry and they still don't include anything about the warp trick not being allowed even though it was voted to be banned.

Can we get that added please?

I think it was conceded back then after the poll....although would need to check the thread(s) that the warp trick perhaps be allowed for 1 of the rom sets...but not the others.

...similar to the compromise made for Outrun.

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Post by Chad » Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:33 pm

where's the poll for the warp? i only remember the poll for the leeching?
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Post by NotMan » Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:24 pm

Yes Kelly! I just show the demo version how to achieve 1 billions pts bug trick on end of the training course which is found rarely on the first two original version not the parent roms which has bug fixes. So, I did not want to finish the game, due that might be another new thread about expoliting the bug tricks something like the Outrun or Camel Try.

Al has mentioned about the Grandstand trick and Lawnmower trick on the earlier thread somewhere in the old archive. I did not know that Lawnmower trick does work on the parent set that probably explain why some people got those high scores in arcade without the bug trick on the end of the training course. So, do not repeat the trick 2 or more, cause the game will give you random scores and even the game will reset itself. It does happens very common in the arcade.

Al.... Have you ever done the both tricks at the same time on the first two versions, yet? I was wondering if there are any more new bug tricks on the original versions instead of the parent.

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Post by AL » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:47 pm

Notman : I dunno about various Romsets , only what I know about arcade machines.

First : when doing the Grandstand trick , ensure your 'damage' bonus is 100pts . That way , you will always get the points on 'Monday'. So no need to go for it again , and lose points.

If playing on Hard Street...do the Grandstand thing , but instead of going through the extra training courses , crash to your immediate left kerb . Should get you 60k+ pts.

Middle Street :....don't do it....

As for the 'Lawnmower Trick '. This only happened on machines where the Grandstand Trick was not achievable for some reason ? It'll give you a variable score . Sometimes 5k , sometimes 1m...whatever .
That may equate to ROMSETS...I just don''t know .

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