TK2012 / PP

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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby Kale » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:20 pm

The TJT wrote:From RULES page:

d) At MARP, only ONE account is allowed per player; if two accounts have the same email or IP address, or anything proves to be created by the same player, only the first account will be kept.



And ...?
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby mahlemiut » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:21 pm

I told TK, at least, that having INPs on multiple accounts wasn't allowed. He, to his credit, apologised, and they are going through the process of deleting those scores of PP's that TK recorded, and uploading them to TK's account where they belong. Which seems to be quite the number.
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby simpsons99 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:19 pm

so which account is he moving the games from and keeping?

He continues to up his score and take back first place on this one? should there be a time limit on how long he has to move games from account to account. He seems to be in no hurry to do so.

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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby BeeJay » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:05 am

So, I'm guessing nothing is going to be done about these two rule breakers, so farewell Marp... it was good while you lasted but if blatant cheating like this and total disregard for the Marp community and it's rules isn't going to result in the cancellation of the accounts involved then there's not much point in being involved anymore.

RIP Marp. You lived well while you lived.
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby RAX » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:58 am

Sorry to read about this action, Beejay.
I fear you have overestimated the damage PP/TK (obviously same person) can make to the board.
Now that, though too late, he is out of the forum (and we fed too much the troll here), the only real damage to the boards is in romset where both of his accounts appear.
My proposal was to merge them, so that he would have not to perform that ridiculous cut/rename/paste. This would have preserved the few confirmations too.

Believe me, removing your scores damages the board far more than keeping his useless junk around and giving no echo to his movements.
Hope you'll change your mind
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby francoisadt1 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:26 am

Why wait for TK to clean up the mess. I think moderator just merge the accounts and throw away the lower scores.
Is it possible to write a script assist the moderator doing so? How many PP recordsn have to be moved and how many are in duplicated posted tracks?

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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby Phil Lamat » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:11 am

francoisadt1 wrote:Is it possible to write a script assist the moderator doing so?

Probably need Zwaxy on that, or maybe Barry ?
I can't do it manually (around 600 entries for TK and 1000+ for PP)
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby The TJT » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:51 am

Are they even the same player...
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby PG3 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:36 am

The TJT wrote:Are they even the same player...

Probably not. But I do not have confidence. :)
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby RAX » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:30 pm

They share politeness, favourite games, and now account too.
Twins separated at birth. :D

Given that TK2012 is not banned from the board, there was absolutely no reason to submit his replays under PP's account.
PP was TK's way to talk again on the forum, when he understood PP account was going to be banned (like TK2007) he decided to save what he could.
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby PG3 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:30 pm

RAX wrote:They share politeness, favourite games, and now account too.
Twins separated at birth. :D

Given that TK2012 is not banned from the board, there was absolutely no reason to submit his replays under PP's account.
PP was TK's way to talk again on the forum, when he understood PP account was going to be banned (like TK2007) he decided to save what he could.

Comments in these videos. He wrote a comment himself? They say they are friends. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_qmzVP1POM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58aJlH3ROfo
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby Haze » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:59 pm

I still don't understand why MARP is allowing anything from either of them on here given that they've proven they can't be trusted and have no regard at all for the rules. It's clear they don't care for the rules of who has recorded what, and I see no reason why the current movement of scores should be trusted given the track record of nothing but lies, lies and more lies.

It lowers the quality and integrity of the site by allowing them to have anything to do with it. I'm really surprised the moderators here are so soft.

Maybe MARP should just have a 'known cheater' flag so that it is displayed by their names and their scores are filtered from the leaderboards by default. That way the scores can remain but count for nothing and nobody needs to waste their time reconfirming any of them.
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby The TJT » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:03 pm

PG3 wrote:Comments in these videos. He wrote a comment himself? They say they are friends. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgmhhXzOcsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_qmzVP1POM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58aJlH3ROfo


Yes, that makes logical sense for the odd two accounts & replay moving operation. That's why I asked if they are even the same player.

The middle video has a comment (posted 8 years ago) which says...

PP1969GR wrote:Yes indeed, this match is only for attack. You see only me (and my friend TK2008BEST) can go over 40 points in a 4' match.


So this solves it; TK and PP are two different players.
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby Cicca » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:02 am

Haze wrote:[.....]It lowers the quality and integrity of the site by allowing them to have anything to do with it. I'm really surprised the moderators here are so soft.[.....]

At least, an explaination should be given to all us users asking for some action to be taken.......
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Re: TK2012 / PP

Postby simpsons99 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:19 pm

just remove both accounts? Done deal?
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