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Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:46 pm
by Phil Lamat
For sure, invqix needs split (-inv & -qix), I'm sure Pat will proceed quickly.

Concerning marvland/rabiolep/rpunch/phelios :
seems the same course (but I'm not an expert on these games, and I miss some practice to go far on them and compare all), only difficulty looks different.
mt_cols : same gameplay, only difficulty is different.
So I don't see any reason to split any of them

Finally for bgaregga, I'm ok for a vote, but I have a question first :
if we allow jp dipswitch, what do we do with previous scores made with default europe ?
all scores mixed ? does jp dip allow higher scores ?

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:24 pm
by mahlemiut
For Battle Garegga, DIP switches for extend settings vary. For Japan, the default extends are every 1M points, for all other regions, the default is no extends whatsoever. There may be some slight variations in game mechanics, also.

Japan region:
Extends every 1M <-> Extends at 1M and 2M only

All other regions:
No extend <-> Extends every 2M

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:28 am
by RAX
Phil Lamat wrote:Concerning marvland/rabiolep/rpunch/phelios :
seems the same course (but I'm not an expert on these games, and I miss some practice to go far on them and compare all), only difficulty looks different
Marvel Land: Easy has a different amount of enemies in later schemes and different boss-sequence
Phelios has a completely different last round and last boss

Both take some scheme in easy mode from normal mode

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:11 am
by Zerstorung
mahlemiut wrote:For Battle Garegga, DIP switches for extend settings vary. For Japan, the default extends are every 1M points, for all other regions, the default is no extends whatsoever. There may be some slight variations in game mechanics, also.

Japan region:
Extends every 1M <-> Extends at 1M and 2M only

All other regions:
No extend <-> Extends every 2M
The game has a notorious (within the shmup communities at least) dynamic difficulty system that accelerates at a much faster rate in the Japanese settings, which is typically maintained by intentionally crashing your ship to temporarily lower it. With the absence of extends in the non-Japanese regions, the difficulty curve was heavily reduced (since there are otherwise insufficient lives available to control it), creating a significantly less intricate risk/reward system for good scoring.

Details on the game's "rank" system can be read here http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=351

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:36 pm
by Phil Lamat
Kale wrote: Space Invaders / Qix Silver Anniversary Edition (invqix) needs splitting between Space Invaders and Qix for obvious reasons.
This one is done.

Concerning other ones, I will launch a vote saturday or sunday (too busy at work for the moment).

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:48 pm
by Zerstorung
Just thought of this one; Battle Bakraid has the same "boss rush" selection mode that Armed Police Batrider has. The latter has a split course for it already.

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:29 am
by Chufoglu
Indiana Jones and Blasteroids have very different courses and difficulty.

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:03 am
by RAX
First of all thanks to MARPers for Phelios and Marvlanj :!:

I'd like to see a special split for Mortal Kombat (at least for parent): Reptile can't appear in any way at first coin, because flying things over the moon in pit stage appear only every a certain amount of games.
I can't remember exactly, but I think first time is at third or fourth game, anyway: could we accept (for this title only) a special rule that allows people to record more than one game in the same inp, so that the first time that Reptile's appearance conditions rise it's the game to record for?
Please don't consider those turbo-hack clones where Reptile appears after every match (99,9millions), I'd like to see an appreciable 20+ millions inp on a decorous romset.

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:22 pm
by TRB_MetroidTeam
I agree with RAX about Reptile rule.

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:50 am
by Phil Lamat
I'm not very found of this idea.
I would prefer a special thread here with attached inp.
Could this be done with a "save state" ?

By the way, bbakraid + clones are split with -ob option (only boss).
And batrider + clones has been renamed -ob also

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:56 am
by RAX
Phil Lamat wrote:Could this be done with a "save state" ?
With WolfMAME? :?
If I remember correctly it's not a matter of how much points you get in previous games, it's only a game counter. Later I'll try some experiment, but you should insert few credits (3 or 4), quickly start a game, be killed, gameover, another game, etc...., third (or fourth) game play at your best because Reptile' conditions will appear.

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:33 am
by ***PL***
Chufoglu wrote:Indiana Jones and Blasteroids have very different courses and difficulty.
NO splits for these two; the courses for both games are the same with just different starting points.

Blasteriods uses warps and playing Indiana Jones in easy mode will eventually take the player through the hardest course.

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:54 am
by tar
invmultip and 3 other sets- invmultim1a , invmultim2a, invmultim3a

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:38 pm
by ***PL***
tar wrote:invmultip and 3 other sets- invmultim1a , invmultim2a, invmultim3a
I don't think there will be a lot of demand for these games, much less all the clones. There are many of them!

invmultim1a
invmultim2a
invmultim2c
invmultim3a
invmultip
invmultis1a
invmultis2a
invmultis3a
invmultit3d

invmulti is the parent so I will split only this one.

Re: Games who might deserve a split

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:14 pm
by tar
guts
that is the rom name...
has 5 sub games
anti aircraft
depthcharge
machine gun
submarine
bombing

it is very fun to play.