Champion Baseball Tactic

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:29 pm

TJT asked what the rule would say

The rule would say "It is not allowed for the runner at third base to run home and score after luring the catcher or picther fielding the ball to miss what would have routinely been an out at first." Any usage of this run home lure should be banned, in normal play you will never be in a position where this leeching is forced on the player. If the situation occurs (a runner at third with out bases loaded and the batter squibs) the runner at third can stay at third and the batter reaches first and no run is scored OR the batter gets out at first and the run scores (sacrifice), no run is scored with out sacrificing an out, and you can continue; no harm done other than leechers egos.

TRB_MetroidTeam · Post by **TRB_MetroidTeam** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:08 pm

The TJT wrote:
mahlemiut wrote:I go by the rule "If it puts me to sleep, then it's probably leeching"
...
... and you must keep moving to keep Barry awake.

Huahuahua

TRB_MetroidTeam · Post by **TRB_MetroidTeam** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:10 pm

Well guys... where is the pool? And I am yet inclined to "split" this stuff!
Hmm... damn you baseball

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:36 am

Chad wrote:But we are humans, If a game is allowed to where you must use a repeatative scoring technique to get first place it will loose interest in the peope for some who like getting a high marp placed score thus elimintating the chance for that human who might be capable of such a game to never play it and submit to marp again.

for that track perhaps....there are 1000s of them.

There also are 100s of other tracks spoiled by other inps with lots of leeching or just endurance etc. that few if any will bother trying to beat....so?

You can't tell me that getting great timing to make a hit is easier than bunting, someone would have done it by now! It's hellishly harder that's why we need the bunting to be disallowed.

yes, it's harder...but if they do it over and over...you going to disallow it?

without this tactic I remember innings where I would score 15-20 runs just getting lots of true hits...not bunts.

However, part of that was smart base running and making sure I rarely had a guy on first base. I would fake steal home from 3rd to draw the throw from the outfield or second base there then steal second....and if the fielder threw toward second...go ahead and score the run...so in a way that is stealing home...but part of a larger play....and just smart baserunning.

are we taking that away also?

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:44 am

Can we use 1 hour time limit for this game? And then rule could be: you must use MAME with frames counter (ex. wolfmame) and your game is over after 216000 frames.
No complicated rules which I don't understand especially that I don't understand baseball.

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:23 pm

destructor wrote:Can we use 1 hour time limit for this game? And then rule could be: you must use MAME with frames counter (ex. wolfmame) and your game is over after 216000 frames.
No complicated rules which I don't understand especially that I don't understand baseball.

You're not alone

But wouldn't one hour limit just keep play shorter and players still using same technique?
Couldn't Barry fall asleep likewise in one hour...

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:49 pm

Rick wrote:However, part of that was smart base running and making sure I rarely had a guy on first base. I would fake steal home from 3rd to draw the throw from the outfield or second base there then steal second....and if the fielder threw toward second...go ahead and score the run...so in a way that is stealing home...but part of a larger play....and just smart baserunning.

That makes the game played without "bunting leech" sound more interesting and smart game.

There also are 100s of other tracks spoiled by other inps with lots of leeching or just endurance etc. that few if any will bother trying to beat....so?

So, why make one more that kind of track then? I think Chad was saying that we should try to direct the rules more towards skill instead of endurance.

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:58 pm

The TJT wrote:
destructor wrote:Can we use 1 hour time limit for this game? And then rule could be: you must use MAME with frames counter (ex. wolfmame) and your game is over after 216000 frames.
No complicated rules which I don't understand especially that I don't understand baseball.
You're not alone ;)

But wouldn't one hour limit just keep play shorter and players still using same technique?
Couldn't Barry fall asleep likewise in one hour...

One hour limit does nothing other than keep destructor on top :)

"complicated rules"? coming from a man who understands every game he plays to the minutest detail with in one week, haha, that is funny, too much vodka i think. Simply put, the rule says "no leeching". But there has to be other words in there so someone who actually cares trying to get a free ride with a high score will know what not to do.

LN2: And if anyone can manage to find a constant method of hitting a homerun or hit, it's unlikely to be infinitely sustainable like the method we are talking about thus it won't have the opportunity to be banned.

TRB_MetroidTeam · Post by **TRB_MetroidTeam** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:09 pm

The TJT wrote:
destructor wrote:...especially that I don't understand baseball.
You're not alone

Hello... I am here................. o/

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:16 am

Chad, as others have said...and I said above...I am totally in favor of having a separate track that has this special rule so you get what you call legitimately played baseball games.

..but a track allowing the entire game of baseball to be played should be allowed as well.

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:11 am

The TJT wrote:
destructor wrote:Can we use 1 hour time limit for this game? And then rule could be: you must use MAME with frames counter (ex. wolfmame) and your game is over after 216000 frames.
No complicated rules which I don't understand especially that I don't understand baseball.
You're not alone

But wouldn't one hour limit just keep play shorter and players still using same technique?

Yes. You can made totally different scores uses 1hour time limit. I counted that with my last method is possible to made about 340k, but maybe someone will find something better.

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:15 am

LN2 wrote:Chad, as others have said...and I said above...I am totally in favor of having a separate track that has this special rule so you get what you call legitimately played baseball games.

..but a track allowing the entire game of baseball to be played should be allowed as well.

i agree spliting to different tracks is a good solution, maybe even not requiring a poll, tjt? I'm basically vocal here to keep marp an action replay page more so than a follow TG leeching page and secondly here to protect an old marp score from being beaten with non game intended techniques.

If we keep the parent romset free of leeching, the two clones can leech as much as possible or maintain a time limit.

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:52 am

I don't see on MARP scores for champbas clones. Why? No games in MARP table?

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:28 am

Chad wrote:If we keep the parent romset free of leeching, the two clones can leech as much as possible or maintain a time limit.

We need to test if the leech is possible on the clones.

It might only be possible on the parent.

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:31 pm

destructor wrote:I don't see on MARP scores for champbas clones. Why? No games in MARP table?

they do appear to be in the marp table, just no scores yet.

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http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... xlines=999

some how i don't think the clones are safe from the bunting technique...