VOTE: leeching situation in Mikie

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What rules should we have for Mikie (all sets)?

Poll ended at Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:42 pm

Unlimited leeching
2
17%
2 buckets - Allows time to check all doors in the hallway, progress (approx. 30 seconds per hall section)
8
67%
4 buckets - Allows time to check all doors in the hallway, some leeching before progressing (approx. 1 minutes per hall section)
2
17%
16 buckets - Allows time to check all doors in hallway, heavy leeching (extra life earned) before progressing (approx. 4 minutes per hall section)
0
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Total votes: 12

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VOTE: leeching situation in Mikie

Post by Q.T.Quazar » Mon Jul 07, 2003 9:42 pm

for those who did not follow the original Mikie leeching thread it can be read here: viewtopic.php?t=10489

To summarize, the problem is this: unlimited lives can be leeched in the hallway section of Mikie. With a bit of practice, a player can build up more lives than they lose performing the leeching. This vote is to decide how to regulate leeching in this game, as there is no suitable internal game mechanism to prevent the leeching.

The main .inp in question to view is Karol's score on mikiehs. Her si the link to the .inp:

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/8/0/9/ka ... mame61.zip

The 'bucket' options for the poll, BBH's suggestion, are how many red buckets are allowed to slide across the hallway floor before the player must progress. The timing between buckets becomes shorter, but by standing on the first doormat you can block the buckets, eliminating this killing variable. It takes a period of time of about 16 buckets to earn a bonus life, at which point your enemies are still not moving at maximum speed. The hallway section can be cleared before ANY buckets are thrown, if you choose to simply progress to the next room.

The total number of buckets listed in this vote is how many buckets can be thrown before you MUST progress. ie: if you choose 2, if a third bucket is thrown your score is DQed or youmust immediately kill your current life.

Please be aware that there is a hall section after each of the first four classrooms, meaning your vote will have a multiple of up to four per level as far as elapsed time is concerned.

If this vote is unsuitable or unfair for any reason, please let me know. I've tried to detail all of the information I could here.
Last edited by Q.T.Quazar on Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by QRS » Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:17 pm

I just want to add that as usual it is very important for the voters to watch one of those recordings, and see what´s going on.

Don´t vote before seeing it first. It may change your first impression :)
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Post by LN2 » Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:27 pm

BTW, please include URL for specific examples of this.

Mikie inp

I'll have to check but I think I watched and confirmed a macmame score for this game...or one of its clones where they did the leeching also.

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Post by Q.T.Quazar » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:47 pm

The link to Karol's .inp has been edited into the main post.

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/8/0/9/ka ... mame61.zip
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Post by LN2 » Tue Jul 08, 2003 12:49 am

yes, I had included it above...now we have it 3 times. overkill is good sometimes I guess. :P

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Post by AL » Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:33 pm

Ehh , sorry guys . I voted for 4 buckets by mistake .

I meant to vote for 2 buckets :oops:

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Post by Q.T.Quazar » Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:07 pm

Vote has completed, final results are:

2 votes unlimited leeching

9 votes for 2 buckets (Alex Weir changed his)

1 vote for 4 buckets (")

0 votes for 16 buckets



Would one of the Editors please remove the following scores that violate the new rule:

mikiehs link:http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... 00&tourn=0

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/8/0/9/ka ... mame61.zip

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/f/8/b/as ... mame61.zip


after reviewing wuzel's two recordings (mikie and mikiej) i would suggest they be allowed to stand, since although he goes over two buckets a few times on Step 1, he never really leeches and quickly progresses to the next area.

they can be viewed here:

2nd place, mikie: http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/9/d/f/ak ... _win59.zip

1st place, mikiej: http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/5/3/5/ak ... _win59.zip
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Post by wuzel » Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:27 am

Q.T.Quazar wrote:Vote has completed, final results are:

2 votes unlimited leeching

9 votes for 2 buckets (Alex Weir changed his)

1 vote for 4 buckets (")

0 votes for 16 buckets



Would one of the Editors please remove the following scores that violate the new rule:

mikiehs link:http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... 00&tourn=0

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/8/0/9/ka ... mame61.zip

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/f/8/b/as ... mame61.zip


after reviewing wuzel's two recordings (mikie and mikiej) i would suggest they be allowed to stand, since although he goes over two buckets a few times on Step 1, he never really leeches and quickly progresses to the next area.

they can be viewed here:

2nd place, mikie: http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/9/d/f/ak ... _win59.zip

1st place, mikiej: http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/5/3/5/ak ... _win59.zip
thx QT.
i never attend 2 leech like karol (its not very difficult but boring :))
but not eraning points by returning 2 corridor 2 find 5000 girls 4 the allowed 4 times is i think maximaizing not leeching so this should be allowed - returning 2 the class and then going back 2 corridor 2 once again earn 5000 for the wet towel girl :)
i think that this is allowed isnt it?
It's good 2 be here with U guys :)

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Post by Frankie » Fri Jul 25, 2003 7:52 am

Special Rules set up for Mikie and the two clones. The two recordings zeroed.

I hope the text in the Special Rules are okay.
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