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Post by tar » Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:57 pm

There is a dipswitch issue on demon.
The top three scores use mame 36.
Old default allows for 6 men.
New settings give 3.

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Post by tar » Sat Aug 07, 2004 4:24 pm

In my opinion the top 4 should be deleted.
Timmykins uses mame 60
3 men / 42420 is the score to beat.
perhaps skito can zero the top ones ?

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Post by Chad » Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:50 pm

i'll zero them but john should make the decision.
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Post by Weehawk » Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:56 am

Chad wrote:i'll zero them but john should make the decision.
I'd say they should be "adjusted" if possible.

But when are extra men awarded in this game? In tar's recent game he gets an extra at about 8000 points and another at about 40000 points. In my game scoring 23000 I got none.
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Post by LordGaz » Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:16 pm

Aren't you setting a new MARP precedent here? I have no problem having my inp deleted in fact I might even do it myself but then you have to start doing it for all other games where the number of lives or difficulty changes in a new version of MAME.

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Post by Weehawk » Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:43 pm

LordGaz wrote:Aren't you setting a new MARP precedent here? I have no problem having my inp deleted in fact I might even do it myself but then you have to start doing it for all other games where the number of lives or difficulty changes in a new version of MAME.
No, we've done this before when we've changed settings on games.

It should be easy enough for someone who can watch the inps in question to determine what the score would have been if the player started out with the same number of lives currently used.

The scores should be adjusted accordingly.

Unless we decided to continue to use the old settings, this is the only fair way to continue competition on the title.
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Post by sawys » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:06 pm

And what about the games of Capcom of the version of wolf 72 which were easier than the other versions ?

If I don't make mistakes :)
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Post by sawys » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:13 pm

Here are examples of games :
1941
Carrier Airwing
Side Arms
Three Wonders
And many others !
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Post by tar » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:26 pm

jtc wrote:The scores should be adjusted accordingly.
i viewed 2nd place - 5th.

results for 3 men


plf_demon_45340_m36b2

39610
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dr_demon_47260_win36b11

38860
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gjl_demon_56370_win36b11

37590

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Post by tar » Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:32 pm

Taken into consideration, in the above reductions, are any free men that they did receive therein .

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Post by Weehawk » Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:16 pm

tar wrote:
jtc wrote:The scores should be adjusted accordingly.
i viewed 2nd place - 5th.

results for 3 men


plf_demon_45340_m36b2

39610
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dr_demon_47260_win36b11

38860
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gjl_demon_56370_win36b11

37590
Great.

I had some trouble getting this game to work properly on my Win98 machine (no chance on XP).

I will try to verify these just to double check before I request an editor to adjust the scores. (Or perhaps Skito can play them..anyway I'll try this evening.)
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Post by Chad » Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:25 pm

either way, if two of you guys agree i'll just change it, haven't had much time to playback stuff (yet)
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Post by Phil Lamat » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:15 am

I also agree lowering scores according to new settings, we've already do that in the past (with goindol for example)

All 3 scores watched by Tar edited, I let other people confirm them

While you're at it, Tar, can you check scores by GOD Inc, Sakuragi, and others till the end (many have been done with old version)

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Post by Weehawk » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:21 am

tar wrote:
jtc wrote:The scores should be adjusted accordingly.
i viewed 2nd place - 5th.

results for 3 men


plf_demon_45340_m36b2

39610
...............................................

dr_demon_47260_win36b11

38860
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gjl_demon_56370_win36b11

37590
OK, I verify all of the above.

Also:

god_demon_37090_win35.zip
--->24950

xad_demon_20990_win35.zip
--->13560

rcs_demon_15100_m35tg3.zip
--->10340

djk_demon_20530_xmame36b5.zip
--->11840

dam_demon_14200_win36.zip
--->5880

Zwax and Er Commissario Monnezza's games freeze before they lost their third man.

All others are made with current default lives.

If an editor would do the honors please.
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Post by Chad » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:07 pm

thanks phil!
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