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After consultation with our Judge Coordinator, Pat Laffaye, and Zwaxy, I've decided that Us Vs. Them will be thrown out of the tournament due to bad emulation. The bad emulation includes invisible enimies and invisible shots, which leads to several hits to your ship. I apologize for any inconvience for which this has caused.

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goldengameboy@yahoo.com

I'm crying FOUL!!!
Since gb can't defeat me on this game, he's going to throw it out??
FOUL FOUL FOUL!!!
There is no invisible enemies or shots, emulated from mame32 35rc2.
NONE at all!
This a travesty, he knows he can't beat me, and rather than compete,
he wants to ditch it! FOUL!

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cparsley1@hotmail.com

I have to agree with Parsley, while I certainly won't be able to
defeat his score, I have seen absolutely nothing about what gb claims
the emulation on the game does. I love the game, and I have never
seen it happen to me on MAME.
Also, from the MAME people themselves:
The game, vsusthem, is in perfect emulation condition, but the
obvious problem of there being no way to load in the optical disc
into the rom set has left the background empty. The game, though, is
perfectly playable, as no interaction with the background is
necessary.
Gameboy, come off your high horse and compete like a man.

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wecfracd@gateway.com

Arron, we don't get to get that fiesty, I admit I had my emotions
talking in the last message I posted...
But, gameboy, c'mon. Nothing in life is perfect, so there's no
background, so what? Everything else works fine, making it valid as
can be. I didn't mean for my score to scare you off on the first day,
but that gives no right to removing it...
As you can planly see on my recording, an enemy or enemy shot, hit me
to make me lose my energy. Just check the damn recording...
If you had checked my recording on win32 35rc2, you would see that to
be the case. Reinstate the game, and let's compete fairly, gb...
What happened to you not being involved in the tourney once you
started playing, sounds like a conflict of interest to me...
Other MARPers???

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cparsley1@hotmail.com

Fair argument Chris - however - that can be easily countered with my
2nd place recording in regular play - this scored 81,500 - I could
probably beat your 106,000 score after a few more tries. Especially
look at the later stages of the third level, and all of the fifth,
and my final, level. You'll see only your character. You'll also
find that you're getting hit no matter what you do for some unknown
reason. Invisible enimies, invisible ships. Now you know why I
threw it out.

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goldengameboy@yahoo.com

I must counter with two points, playing in HARD mode doesn't have any
"invisible" items, I don't know about the lower two settings, you may
be right there as I never play it below HARD. Perhaps the settings
should be to HARD only.
If, after it all, it gets thrown out, the people who voted for the
game should be allowed to name it's replacement, as if it was out of
the running from the beginning, their votes for other games would
have been counted...

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cparsley1@hotmail.com

Well... I still get imaginary hits even with the hard level - enimies
disappear, and when they reappear... BOOM - my ship takes a hit...
from no source at all. I have uploaded a recording to verify this -
at 88,000 points.

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To compromise this... Chris gave the idea that those who voted for Us
Vs. Them get another chance to vote for another game. Sounds good to
me. Anyone object? If not... they will have until the tiebreaker
deadline, July 3rd, 2359 GMT, to make their vote.

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goldengameboy@yahoo.com

Guys,
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OK! OK! Being completely impartial I'm going to review all
recordings of the Us vs. Them and make a final ruling tonight.

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I'm open to additional comments / input from either side (for or
against). If the game gets taken out, a decision will be made on
how to replace it as well.

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You can post pro/cons here or send directly to my ID.

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laffaye@ibm.net

Pat, I have checked gb's recording, and can't see the bug.
But if you remove it, the only thing fair would be to let me and
Arron to re-vote, keep it short, like 24hrs or something like that,
to make the votes count. If there is a problem that keeps the game
out, it should of been told ahead of time so me and Arron could have
voted differently.

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cparsley1@hotmail.com