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TGMame

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2000 12:30 pm
by Nicola Salmoria
By this statement, i would like to say that TG Mame, is a illegal version of Mame, according to the Mame License. Releasing the source is not enough,when you dont distribute the complete source with ALL changes.
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My point is,that distributing this mame version public on web pages (like its done now), or in private as i have heard has been discussed is illegal, and does only harm Mame and i require it to be stopped distributed and used.

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It breakes not only one point in the license,but a few :

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1. Not open source
2. Does not follow Mame release numbers,even if its a 0.35 version
3. Disables features that is not intended to be disabled.

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SO STOP DISTRIBUTING IT AND STOP USING IT. This includes the Deca2000 too.

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This message is not to harm any site or persons, but Please respect the people that has done so much. I will not answer any mails or questions abut this, as this is my final statement.

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sencirely
Nicola Salmoria

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MC6489@mclink.it

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2000 12:30 pm
by Aquatarkus
This is isn't going to be the last time you hear this.
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Fuck You.

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David M. Waters - Aquatarkus

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aquatarkus@digicron.com

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2000 12:30 pm
by Ben Jos Walbeehm
OK. Is it just me or do others smell something too? I have seen
messages from Nicola before, and I am pretty sure his English was
better than this. And I just compared this message to Stig's latest
message and made some very interesting observations:

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(1) Both use "i" instead of "I".

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(2) Both usually forget putting in a space following a comma.

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(3) Nicola: "people that has done"; Stig: "people that has made".

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(4) Both forget apostrophes in words like "didn't", "don't", "it's".

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(5) Both spell it "Mame". I should imagine that Nicola would use what
seems to be the official spelling: "MAME".

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(6) And why no mails? Because he didn't post it to start with?

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Cheers,
Ben Jos.

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walbeehm@walbeehm.com

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2000 12:30 pm
by Ben Jos Walbeehm
Oops... thanks, Crash, for making me have another look and for raising
doubts in the first place.

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Cheers,
Ben Jos.

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walbeehm@walbeehm.com

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2000 12:30 pm
by Ben Jos Walbeehm
For proof that Nicola's English and writing is a LOT better than this
(and that he uses "MAME", not "Mame"), see:

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http://mameworld.retrogames.com/mametes ... ments.html

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Cheers,
Ben Jos.

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walbeehm@walbeehm.com

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2000 12:30 pm
by BBH
Nice detective work, Ben Jos. It seemed fishy to me too since I knew
Nicola could spell better than that based on his message board
posts. And hey, soon after the faked post Stig speaks up saying
that all the rules and voting for the tourney should be scrapped
and started over. How odd that it would almost seem like Stig WANTED
this to happen, eh? He'll try anything to get his way (see the "gang
voting" for T2).

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Give it up Stig, start your own tourney if you don't like what's going
on, there's no need to ruin it for the rest of us.

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-BBH

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lordbbh@aol.com

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2000 12:30 pm
by Sports Dude
Stig, first of all, you weren't ever going to get OutRun in the
tournament anyway even if it WAS MAME .35. It's a sorry excuse for a
good game. Why people like it is beyond me.

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Second, if you want things your way, as they've said, start your own
god damn tournament, OKAY!? Look, I might be pissed that Badlands
was exlcuded twice, but I have not ONCE tried to rig the tournament
in my favor just to get it in. You are probably the ULTIMATE scam.
You've passed yourself off as a Twin Galaxies verifier for Norway,
which SHOULD make you good. However, you've pissed off your fair
share of people, and you've scammed us in two straight tourneys to
get your way. Which you didn't...so THERE. And you won't get it
your way again if you keep doing this.

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Your "impersonation" of Nicola was so laughable that it made me
remember how STUPID you really are. If you can't do a convincing
impression of Nicola, you're better off swearing at Gameboy9's
randomizer for screwing you over. Taking it out on everyone was
LOW. VERY low. I'll be very surprised if you play in the tourney
based on how you've been acting. I don't think they'll let you play
based on your bastardishness.

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I am done bitching. Oh, and Stig: You should go to hell. They like
to take retards like you.

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--Sports Dude (I may not make sense, but I make my point.)

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shyboy820@aol.com

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2000 12:30 pm
by Stig Remnes
What a fucking idiot you must be Ben Jos. Come and proove that i
wrote that message. I read my mail and read Nicola's and Gamebvoy9's
message,and posted a response. Why dont you go to hell yourself. Why
dont you mail Nicola and get an answer,that he didnt post it ? I am
ver sure you will never get an answer. My connection to TG is nothing
to bring up here. I have told Gamyboy9 many times that i wont compete
in this tourney. But accusing me for posting fake mails is very
serious. And btw,how the hell would you stop me from playing in t3
lamer. I could just create any named player and play with it.

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Ben Jos, you were lucky with the selection of games in t2, and did a
great job winning it. But in my opinion there are at least 10 better
players at Marp than you. You are fucking stupid accusing me of
posting this, as i said before I never intended to play t3, so
wouldnt care anyway.

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So to Ben Jos :
Fuck YOU !!!!!
Fuck YOU !!!!!
Fuck YOU !!!!!
And go to hell !

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Stig

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sremnes@samsen.com

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2000 12:30 pm
by Dean Ryan
Stig,
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You are such a bad loser. You just don't like it that you've
been found out, do you? For your information Nicola Salmoria
types perfect English, and wasn't it just remarkable how his
"supposed" message was identical to your in all its grammatical
failings? Poor spelling, misplaced punctuation and even misquoting
his OWN MAME license? I think not. Even more so that Nicola does
not post to message boards hardly ever, and certainly does not
publicise his email address in such public forums. He's anti-spam
just like the rest of us.

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You've been nothing but a moaner and coplainer over the last few
months. Just because you didn't get the games you wanted in T2,
despite your best efforts to cheat the voting system, you decide
that you'll try and force us to play the games YOU want using the
version of MAME YOU want. Well, it's not going to happen.

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For your information, I was the person who first suggested the
message from "Nicola" was fake, and that YOU posted it. I suggest
that if YOU want to take this further you talk to ME.

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I'm not just going to sit here and let you ruin the tournament for
everyone else. If I had my way, YOU would be banned from the
tournament, MARP and the message boards. At least that way we could
all gladly have NOTHING more to do with you.

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Your attempt to impersonate someone else was completely pathetic,
and just shows you up to be the cheat you really are. The whole
MARP thing is supposed to be fun, and that's how the vast
majority of us treat it.

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What kick do you get from trying to sabotage people's efforts?

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You are a sad, sad litle boy.

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Crash.

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crash@tcp.co.uk

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2000 12:30 pm
by Ben Jos Walbeehm
Stig:
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A very interesting train of thoughts there and very interesting that
you seem to identify me with Sports Dude. This is just to let you know
that I have read your reply, and that, as I have stated before, you
should seriously consider therapy.

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Cheers,
Ben Jos.

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walbeehm@walbeehm.com

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2000 12:30 pm
by Alex Weir
I`ve just read this whole thead with absolute bewilderment. If the
guy is guilty , when then he is a complete WANKER,TOSSER, ( and what
we say in Ireland ) a compete and utter GOB-SHITE !

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Sorry about the language , but for someone to stoop so low in a site
where we`re suppossed to be 'friendly rivals'and enjoy competing
against each other, it`s just sickening.
If he is guilty...I say ban him from this site completely. We don`t
need this kind of sinister crap.

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If Stig is innocent , disregard the above comments.

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p.s Sherlock Ben Jos , can you dig up any more evidence ?

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Jusy my opinion....
ALEX

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alexweir@indigo.ie

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2000 12:30 pm
by Ron Corcoran
I'm not sure who posted this, and frankly I could care less. The
Deca2000 will go forward, requiring the use of Mame .35TG3, until my
attorney receives a "cease and desist" order from a magistrate.

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Nuff Said.

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Ron

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sniper75@mindspring.com

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2000 12:30 pm
by Shane R. Monroe
...and people wonder why Monroeworld.com has never had nor will ever
have a Message Board. This sort of thing turns my stomach.

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Maybe Nicola WILL take some legal action - against our buddy here
that likes to impersonate someone else.

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I'd buy that for a dollar!

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Shane

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webmaster@monroeworld.com

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2000 12:30 pm
by Ben Jos Walbeehm
From the Snipercade Deca2000 forum:
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"yours sencirely,
Stig Remnes"

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Sencirely? Sencirely? Now where have I seen that before?

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Cheers,
Ben Jos.

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walbeehm@walbeehm.com

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2000 12:30 pm
by Alex Weir
Ben Jos, quit programming amd become a full-time Private
Detective.....
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Keep it up....

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ALEX

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alexweir@indigo.ie