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with Richy Cream's recent recording on SMB, it looks like we need to reach a ruling regarding leeching in this game.
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For the few who aren't familiar with SMB, this is what happens - at the end of a level where a turtle can walk down the "steps", you can get in a perfect position to keep jumping on it and rack up big points, and 1-ups. This can be done until time runs out, where you can just do it again. And again. And again. There's really no limit to the amount of times you can do this, so this makes the score pretty much meaningless.

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There's also a level where you can get a 1-up by kicking a turtle shell into many enemies in a row, die, then repeat... but this process is much slower. Nonetheless, it is another trick where big points can be racked up through little skill. (sorry, I don't know which level it is offhand, but I know one of you SMB guys can provide that answer)

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At any rate, I propose that the first trick be banned from MARP and that any recording containing this glitch should be DQ'ed. The second "trick" is of course acceptable when done the first time, but a player that wipes himself out time after time to get a 1-up back and some free points should be DQ'ed.

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-BBH

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lordbbh@aol.com

I agree BBH. I have watched the recording and Rich does the leech on
the 6-2 level. I´t s an old "leech-spot" to get points from in smb
and it´s no skill in doing it.

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I think the tech. should be banned. or do you want me to upload
another recording of 100k more than this one? Well I don´t think I
will do that. Either ban it or make a rule that says you are only
allowed to do the leech until the timer runs out ONCE and on ONE men
only. Like the gng games.

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Please don´t take this personal Richy cream, cause I have done it
myself in the arcades alot of time:) But I don´t think it should be
allowed on MARP.

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SMB is an easy game, but it will be a challenge or points if you try
to finish it (every level without warps ,wich are of course allowed:)
and trying to not lose any men.. and get those 100k bonuses in the end

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just my two cents

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regards

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qrs

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qrs@telia.com

If this is allowed then the Ghost'n'Goblins leech should also be
allowed!!! (Its the same thing really!!)

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Maybe allow the leech for 1 life only??

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Whats think??

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GG

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gameguru@cableinet.co.uk

I think the best way is to add this leeching to banned technic , and
transfer Richy Cream's input to the "tricks,easter eggs,bugs" section

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plamat@club-internet.fr

Sure, thats fine. I dont mind banning the technique. I have no
problem submitting a new recording going through the entire game
withouth warping once. As for what you said about the game being
easy, i have to disagree. The game was simple on the NES but was
greatly changed for the arcade. It is much much harder. The highest
you can warp is world 6 for one thing, plus, many castles and worlds
are entirly different. Lets see how long until someone beats it
without leeching!

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urgod@mediaone.net

BBH, not to. BTW BBH what kind of game is "guwange", I have AMDK62-
550, enough power?
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Second trick good only once.

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Steps trick, If you get/take more than one extra man, it's definitely
leeching. What if you take only one extra man + extra points once, is
that leeching? It will spoil your game if you try to go for first
extra man, but overdo it. It's very hard to stop jumping exactly when
you want(at the point you've gotten the first extra). So I say not
any extra men at that point. If someone gets few bonus points there
with one jump-series,ok, but not many times. You know yourselves what
is leeching what's not.
It's allready at tricks page, under pc_smb, I tricked the turtle at 3-
1.

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Maybe I should DL 37b11 too

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tiihoto@hotmail.com

you cant leech a turtle on 3-1 in the Vs SMB. You can only do that
on the NES home system.

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urgod@mediaone.net

Forgive me, 15 years is a long time.

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tiihoto@hotmail.com

Ok, then I guess it's somewhat unanimous - no turtle leeching in SMB.
Good job going through Vs. SMB without warping or leech tricks, Richy!<p>

Oh, and to Tommi: Guwange is a Cave game - meaning it's an incredibly
insane vertical shooter. The sheer amount of bullets that are put on
the screen are downright ridiculous, but that's offset by the
deceiving small hit detection box on the player. They're very
impressive games to watch. It should run ok on a 550mhz, might need
fskp 1 or 2 in instances where things get hectic (which is often), but
maybe not.

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-BBH

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lordbbh@aol.com