Final Ruling on US vs. THEM

Pat · Post by **Pat** » Thu Jul 01, 1999 12:30 pm

This has been an interesting decision for me to make. You guys gave me a tough one for starters! I clearly see both sides of the issue here and could go either way for various reasons. After spending the last 2-3 hours reviewing recordings, I cannot definately conclude that besides the background missing, the emulation is 100% correct. However, I feel that regardless it would be a level playing field and that if there is some sort of quirk everyone must deal with it. GB's continued recording does show numerous valid hits causing shield energy loss, but there is one instance of unexplained flashing. Note that this may be a bug in the original program that the emulator is faithfully reproducing.
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That said, I will let the game remain in the tourney. The possible quirk is not enough to pull the game out. However, Chris Parsley, your MAME 1st place score is incorrect and must be edited. The actual score should be 103275 not 121400. This is because you verified your recording by playing back at higher frame rates! Gotcha! Playing back at normal speed results in the correct score. As far as I can tell the DOS version doesn't not exhibit this problem. I will be looking for this kind of stuff, so watch it!

PLAY ON!

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Chris Parsley · Post by **Chris Parsley** » Fri Jul 02, 1999 12:30 pm

Pat, my recordings are at Win32 35rc2 default recording, NOT MS-DOS
(got to remember my verifying processes here) The default is
automatic, unless step to skip frames. Playing mine back would need
to be done on Win32 version of MAME.
I told Gameboy, if it is going to make that much trouble, and I have
talked with the other person who voted for it, we both work at the
same company, that if we are allowed to change our votes, we can
remove the game. (As if there was a problem with the game, it should
have been noted before we started, and we would have been able to
change our votes, whatever works)

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Chris Parsley · Post by **Chris Parsley** » Fri Jul 02, 1999 12:30 pm

Question - if the official score for my recording is 103275, why
isn't that score placed in the tournament page??? Instead, gb is
currently allowed first because my score is nowhere to be seen.

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Gameboy9 · Post by **Gameboy9** » Fri Jul 02, 1999 12:30 pm

It's because you need to reupload your score onto the tournament page
(all contestants need to do so.)

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Chris Parsley · Post by **Chris Parsley** » Fri Jul 02, 1999 12:30 pm

This game isn't worth the trouble that it is causing, let who voted
for it revote THAT vote only, and let's remove this one, and pick a
different game for it's place.

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BBH · Post by **BBH** » Fri Jul 02, 1999 12:30 pm

Gee Chris, first you seemed angry about Us vs. Them being removed, and
started crying "FOUL!" when Gameboy said he was going to drop it from
the tourney... now you seem willing to forget about the game. Any
particular reason why?

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;P

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Chris Parsley · Post by **Chris Parsley** » Fri Jul 02, 1999 12:30 pm

BBH, if you would like to know, I am not finding myself in the role
of trying to bring everyone back together. NO GAME, I wouldn't care
if it was something as common as Ms PacMan, should scar anything...
That's why I am where I am, BBH, nothing to do with your score, I
could go back and forth with you forever, got a Level5 recording
done, if you would like to see it?

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BBH · Post by **BBH** » Sat Jul 03, 1999 12:30 pm

was the emoticon not clear enough? I was just kidding about the whole
thing, although I did find it odd that you had a change of heart so
quickly. Just chill out man.

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If you got to level 5, you may as well upload it to the main MARP
page, neh?

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