The .63 bug seems to be gone in .75+

Buttermaker · Post by **Buttermaker** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:02 am

Metrackle wrote:(both recorded with Wolfmame 0.75)
metlclsh: Works 100% [score=56840]
paradise: Doesn't go past the first level [score is supposed to be 9850]

Both desync. Try again in .76 please.

Metrackle · Post by **Metrackle** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:24 pm

Same scenario: Metal Clash will playback for me, but Paradise will not.

Buttermaker · Post by **Buttermaker** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:32 pm

http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... lines=9999
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/5/4/e/zl ... _win76.zip

desyncs

Buttermaker · Post by **Buttermaker** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:03 am

Buttermaker wrote:http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... lines=9999
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/5/4/e/zl ... _win76.zip

desyncs

So this was a Windowblinds problem...

http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... lines=9999
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/1/e/7/zl ... _win76.zip

That one plays back correctly for me and mahlemiut so the .63 bug in cloak is fixed in .76.

Buttermaker · Post by **Buttermaker** » Sat Nov 22, 2003 11:00 am

Metrackle wrote:Same scenario: Metal Clash will playback for me, but Paradise will not.

Your Metal Clash recording still desyncs. Since Paradise doesn't even work on your own machine I think it's a different kind of problem.

Thanks for testing Metrackle. I wish more people would help.

Buttermaker · Post by **Buttermaker** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:54 pm

I compiled a list of all buggy drivers inlcuding all their games. If you wanna help testing pick a game from a driver that says "status: unknown" or "status: bug still in .76" or earlier, make a recording with MAME .77 and attach it to a post here.

cabal.c
status: bug still in .77 (might be some other problem though)

Cabal

angelkds.c
status: unknown

Angel Kids / Space Position

namcona1.c
status: unknown

NA-1 Games:
- Bakuretsu Quiz Ma-Q Dai Bouken
- F/A
- Super World Court (C354, C357)
- Nettou! Gekitou! Quiztou!! (C354, C365 - both are 32pin)
- Exvania (C350, C354)
- Cosmo Gang the Puzzle (C356)
- Tinkle Pit (C354, C367)
- Emeraldia (C354, C358)

NA-2 Games:
- Knuckle Heads
- Numan Athletics
- X-Day 2

toaplan2.c
status: unknown

Supported games:

Name Board No Maker Game name
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
tekipaki TP-020 Toaplan Teki Paki
ghox TP-021 Toaplan Ghox
dogyuun TP-022 Toaplan Dogyuun
kbash TP-023 Toaplan Knuckle Bash
truxton2 TP-024 Toaplan Truxton 2 / Tatsujin 2
pipibibs TP-025 Toaplan Pipi & Bibis
whoopee TP-025 Toaplan Whoopee
pipibibi bootleg? Toaplan Pipi & Bibis
fixeight TP-026 Toaplan FixEight
grindstm TP-027 Toaplan Grind Stormer (1992)
grindsta TP-027 Toaplan Grind Stormer (1992) (older)
vfive TP-027 Toaplan V-V (V-Five) (1993 - Japan only)
batsugun TP-030 Toaplan Batsugun
batugnsp TP-030 Toaplan Batsugun (Special Version)
snowbro2 ?????? Toaplan Snow Bros. 2 - With New Elves

mahoudai RA-MA7893-01 Raizing Mahou Daisakusen
shippumd ?????? Raizing/8ing Shippu Mahou Daisakusen
battleg RA9503 Raizing/8ing Battle Garegga (Type 2)
battlega RA9503 Raizing/8ing Battle Garegga
battlegb RA9503 Raizing/8ing Battle Garegga (New Version?)
batrider RA9704 Raizing/8ing Armed Police Batrider - Rev B (Japan - Ver. Fri Feb 13 1998)
batridra RA9704 Raizing/8ing Armed Police Batrider (Japan - Ver. Mon Dec 22 1997)
batridrk RA9704 Raizing/8ing Armed Police Batrider (Korea - Ver. Fri Feb 13 1998)
bbakraid ET68-V99 8ing Battle Bakraid - unlimited version (Japan - Tue Jun 8th, 1999)
bbakrada ET68-V99 8ing Battle Bakraid (Japan - Wed Apr 7th, 1999)

balsente.c
status: fixed in .77

Games supported:
* Chicken Shift
* Gimme a Break
* Goalie Ghost
* Grudge Match
* Hat Trick
* Mini Golf
* Name that Tune
* Night Stocker
* Off the Wall
* Rescue Raider
* Sente Diagnostic Cartridge
* Shrike Avenger
* Snacks'n Jaxson
* Snake Pit
* Spiker
* Stocker
* Stompin'
* Street Football
* Toggle
* Trivial Pursuit (Genus I)
* Trivial Pursuit (Genus II)
* Trivial Pursuit (All Sports Edition)
* Trivial Pursuit (Young Player's Edition)
* Trivial Pursuit (Baby Boomer Series)

mcr2.c
status: not fixed in .77

* Satan's Hollow
* Tron
* Kozmik Krooz'r
* Domino Man
* Wacko
* Two Tigers
* Journey

mcr3.c
status: fixed in .75

* Tapper
* Timber
* Discs of Tron (Squawk n' Talk)
* Demolition Derby (Turbo Chip Squeak)
* Demolition Derby (Monoboard version) (Turbo Chip Squeak)
* Sarge (Turbo Chip Squeak)
* Max RPM (Turbo Chip Squeak)
* Rampage (Sounds Good)
* Power Drive (Sounds Good)
* Star Guards (Sounds Good)
* Spy Hunter (Chip Squeak Deluxe)
* Crater Raider
* Turbo Tag (prototype) (Chip Squeak Deluxe)

suprnova.c
status: unknown

Cyvern
Gals Panic 4
Gals Panic S - Extra Edition
Gals Panic S2
Guts'n (Japan)
Jan Jan Paradise 2
Jan Jan Paradise
Panic Street
Puzz Loop
VS Mahjong Otome Ryouran
Sengeki Striker
Sen-Know
Tel Jan
VS Block Breaker

midtunit.c
status: fixed in .75

* Mortal Kombat (T-unit version)
* Mortal Kombat 2
* NBA Jam
* NBA Jam Tournament Edition
* Judge Dredd (prototype)

midwunit.c
status: bug still in .77

* Mortal Kombat 3
* Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
* NBA Hangtime
* NBA Maximum Hangtime
* 2 On 2 Open Ice Challenge
* WWF Wrestlemania
* Rampage World Tour

paradise.c
status: unknown (might not be the .63 bug though)

Paradise

mcr68.c
status: unknown

* Zwackery (Chip Squeak Deluxe)
* Xenopohobe (Sounds Good)
* Spy Hunter 2 (Sounds Good/Turbo Chip Squeak)
* Blasted (Sounds Good)
* Arch Rivals
* Tri-Sports
* Pigskin 621AD

raiden.c
status: unknown

Raiden (c) 1990 Seibu Kaihatsu
Raiden (Alternate Hardware) (c) 1990 Seibu Kaihatsu
Raiden (Korean license) (c) 1990 Seibu Kaihatsu
Raiden (Taiwanese license) (c) 1990 Seibu Kaihatsu

cloak.c
status: fixed in .76

Cloak & Dagger

metlclsh.c
status: bug still in .76

Metal Clash

itech32.c
status: unknown

* Time Killers (2 sets)
* Bloodstorm (4 sets)
* Hard Yardage (2 sets)
* Pairs viewtopic.php?p=18800#18800
* Driver's Edge (not working)
* World Class Bowling (4 sets)
* Street Fighter: The Movie (3 sets)
* Shuffleshot (2 sets)

Post by **mahlemiut** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:22 am

Didn't we determine that Stocker (balsente.c) was fixed in 0.75?

Also, wasn't Namco NA-1 a mame_rand() fix? I remember that it made F/A work.

Buttermaker · Post by **Buttermaker** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:35 am

mahlemiut wrote:Didn't we determine that Stocker (balsente.c) was fixed in 0.75?

I sent you a recording but I don't know if you ever tested it. I tested it on my other comp but don't remember the result. So here's a new one.

Somebody from set B will need to test this (BBH, QtQuazar, kfx, Abbe, Zteuer, SJK).

If you wanna find out in which set you are check my nbajamt3 recording. If my first shot misses (correct) you are in set B. If it goes in (wrong) you are in set A.

right-click -> save target as...

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:03 pm

The cabal issue is NOT the mame63 bug it is simply an operating system dependent game. I can playback the cabal_895600_wolf77 recording fine in XP but i CAN NOT in windows 98 (playsback to 160k). I don't think this warants an investigation of other mame63 games.

http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... lines=9999

Post by **mahlemiut** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:08 pm

That Stocker inp works fine on the new system (AthlonXP 3000, 1024MB RAM, WinXP Pro)

Buttermaker · Post by **Buttermaker** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 7:34 pm

Chad wrote:I can playback the cabal_895600_wolf77 recording fine in XP but i CAN NOT in windows 98 (playsback to 160k).

SJK uses XP as well and he can't play them back. It sounds to me like your system is in set B when it's running Windos 98. Check it with my nbajamt3 recording.

mahlemiut wrote:That Stocker inp works fine on the new system (AthlonXP 3000, 1024MB RAM, WinXP Pro)

And that system is in what set?

Chad · Post by **Chad** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:37 pm

this may not be a set thing at all anymore, i.e. a different bug or the sets we used before may not work. Or it might be some windows blinds thing, i still swear i've got pretty much the same crap installed on XP as i do with 98 but they playback differently sometimes. With the 63 bug my 98 and xp would always playback the same way, either both don't work or both work.

So there is this cabal recording that playsback in 98 and doesn't in the other (i've seen this millions of times with other recordings with mame versions as old as mame34), in particular John Cunningham (i misspelled his name but the guy with the indiana jones avatar) has made many recordings in XP with mame versions varying from m6x-m7x and i can only play them back in 98 and not XP, he himself can play them back with XP. So this probably won't be as categorizable a thing as the 63 bug was, just a pre existing issue.

Post by **mahlemiut** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:40 pm

If it helps any, it works fine on my old Athlon-950 (WinMe) too.

Buttermaker · Post by **Buttermaker** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:50 am

mahlemiut wrote:If it helps any, it works fine on my old Athlon-950 (WinMe) too.

That doesn't help. That comp is in the same set as my P4.

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:53 am

Buttermaker wrote: Somebody from set B will need to test this (BBH, QtQuazar, kfx, Abbe, Zteuer, SJK).

If you wanna find out in which set you are check my nbajamt3 recording. If my first shot misses (correct) you are in set B. If it goes in (wrong) you are in set A.

right-click -> save target as...

Well that's certainly weird. I'm supposed to be in set B, but I tested the nbajamt3 recording, and your first shot goes in. I don't get it...

The Stocker recording works too.