Golden Era Game of the Week 8/28/04: Black Widow
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Golden Era Game of the Week 8/28/04: Black Widow
Golden Era Game of the Week
See introduction here
The Game: Black Widow
romname: bwidow
Screenshot:
(click to see current MARP scores)
Reward: $100 (usd)
Deadline for submission to MARP: September 3, 2004 2359 hours GMT
Further Bounties: $250 (usd) for exceeding 930,100 by December 15, 2004
Been wanting to do this one for a few weeks, but I was waiting until I got a two joystick controller.
Probably the most physically demanding game so far in the Game of the Week series, I really wore my wrists out playing this for a few days.
No idea how the people listed at TG scored so much on this title back in the 80's. Perhaps one of you heroes can show us.
The record listed at TG for the arcade machine is 930,100 by James Vollandt.
Use WolfMAME .83 or .86
See introduction here
The Game: Black Widow
romname: bwidow
Screenshot:
(click to see current MARP scores)
Reward: $100 (usd)
Deadline for submission to MARP: September 3, 2004 2359 hours GMT
Further Bounties: $250 (usd) for exceeding 930,100 by December 15, 2004
Been wanting to do this one for a few weeks, but I was waiting until I got a two joystick controller.
Probably the most physically demanding game so far in the Game of the Week series, I really wore my wrists out playing this for a few days.
No idea how the people listed at TG scored so much on this title back in the 80's. Perhaps one of you heroes can show us.
The record listed at TG for the arcade machine is 930,100 by James Vollandt.
Use WolfMAME .83 or .86
John Cunningham (JTC)
Easter eggs are usually something hidden.The TJT wrote:Nobody solved it yet???
...Found programmers names at Black Widow...
Can't believe it! Ok, hint: you don't have to even insert coin. Tell you later if nobody finds 'em...
Bruce is obviously Bruce Merritt, credited with designing and programming the game.
Dennis and Morgan are possibly Dennis Harper and Morgan Hoff, also programmers for Atari. (I think Morgan Hoff did Battlezone)
John Cunningham (JTC)
Nah, not good ...only played it about 20 games.tar wrote:tjt , i guess that you are very skillful at this title.
zektor knowledge will avail you well
will you be sending a replay for us to see ?
I think Zektor don't help a bit, robotron might.
...Unless you think that I like vector games, and if you like a game -you'll be more motivated at it. I DO like vector games, how they look. Have to also admit that many vector games have that kind of quick-action-gameplay that I especially like...
Ok, ok, yes sir! ...i still want to watch the tac-scan .inp upload it .
I was hoping to make better inp before submission. I'm better now. Should be able to make 1-2M. Have made previously few times 1,5M at practice, couple times 2M(Starting at 350 or 500k, savestate practice)Hopefully I'll get back to it later, now interested at other (vector) games
Weehawk,
I said semi-easter-egg. You're right those names are not really hidden...But took me couple times to watch demo to start wonder why initials were so strange. Surely not everybody notice those names right away, unless you're chinese...
Yes, edited, actually I did use wolf83.
Nowadays play so much with 82...
I would not use wolf86/85, if there are other alternatives, inp size/harddisk swapping bothers me. Which also makes mame slower when recording.
Was not easy to break score of Notman, I got lucky...Allthough not lucky to get 8 waves further, but only 25k better.
Nowadays play so much with 82...
I would not use wolf86/85, if there are other alternatives, inp size/harddisk swapping bothers me. Which also makes mame slower when recording.
Was not easy to break score of Notman, I got lucky...Allthough not lucky to get 8 waves further, but only 25k better.
It was indeed .83, and is confirmed.The TJT wrote:Yes, edited, actually I did use wolf83.
Nowadays play so much with 82...
I would not use wolf86/85, if there are other alternatives, inp size/harddisk swapping bothers me. Which also makes mame slower when recording.
Was not easy to break score of Notman, I got lucky...Allthough not lucky to get 8 waves further, but only 25k better.
King of the hill so far....but there's 19 hours left.
John Cunningham (JTC)
Results:
1st: Ian Sutton
2nd: The_Pro
3rd: TJT
WOW!
Some really outstanding play this week.
I am impressed...and humbled. Faster reflexes? Sharper eyesight? You guys have something I don't. Wonder if I had it and lost it, or never had it at all?
Same email address, Ian?
Destructor: Did you try this one, or were you too busy showing 'em how it was done on Psycho Soldiers?
Also, I'd be curious to know what type of controls you guys used, if you don't mind sharing a little trade secret. Please don't anyone tell me they used the keyboard...
1st: Ian Sutton
2nd: The_Pro
3rd: TJT
WOW!
Some really outstanding play this week.
I am impressed...and humbled. Faster reflexes? Sharper eyesight? You guys have something I don't. Wonder if I had it and lost it, or never had it at all?
Same email address, Ian?
Destructor: Did you try this one, or were you too busy showing 'em how it was done on Psycho Soldiers?
Also, I'd be curious to know what type of controls you guys used, if you don't mind sharing a little trade secret. Please don't anyone tell me they used the keyboard...
John Cunningham (JTC)
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Wow 2!
Gongrats Ian for great win. Also congrats to Martin and Donald for great play. I guess you guys are not bad at Robotron either. Tough competition this time. I played game 5 days, started at Monday, which was not enough to win.
At friday I felt this game is all about luck, not being able to improve my thursday score...Then at very last hour or so, my game took a leap forward, scoring over 300k about 4 times instead of usual 220k...And I felt that my control of spidey was better and playing was better and more satisfying. So in end I was happy with my progress, Hopefully I can reach same level of play later and maybe even better...And playing BW shouldn't be bad for Robotron skills either...
If John chooses Robotron at some point, please don't choose 5man score, that is waste of time. At mame Robotron is harder than arcade, and nobody hasn't marathoned the game, allthough SLA was quite close getting there.
Des, it takes very much play to learn perfect control at Robotron or BW, not something that you learn in one week. I do like very much games that have somekind of different control, find them challenging...Well, it's matter of taste
Oh, and played with Hotrod SE
Tommi
Gongrats Ian for great win. Also congrats to Martin and Donald for great play. I guess you guys are not bad at Robotron either. Tough competition this time. I played game 5 days, started at Monday, which was not enough to win.
At friday I felt this game is all about luck, not being able to improve my thursday score...Then at very last hour or so, my game took a leap forward, scoring over 300k about 4 times instead of usual 220k...And I felt that my control of spidey was better and playing was better and more satisfying. So in end I was happy with my progress, Hopefully I can reach same level of play later and maybe even better...And playing BW shouldn't be bad for Robotron skills either...
If John chooses Robotron at some point, please don't choose 5man score, that is waste of time. At mame Robotron is harder than arcade, and nobody hasn't marathoned the game, allthough SLA was quite close getting there.
Game freezes at wave 104...IMO it's possible to get around 800k points if played to the end. It is possible that TG record was played using buy-in-option(multiple credits). At BW you can continue-and-start at later level -and get big bonus, as at Tempestdestructor wrote:I don't understand how is possible to make 900k score. Where is secret?
Des, it takes very much play to learn perfect control at Robotron or BW, not something that you learn in one week. I do like very much games that have somekind of different control, find them challenging...Well, it's matter of taste
Oh, and played with Hotrod SE
Tommi