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Post by The TJT » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:12 pm

DaviL wrote:the second position is not valid! He leech until die and leech again to finish the second level.

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/0/2/a/sk ... _win79.zip
I just asked Frankie to zero these too:

Pyros:
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/a/7/3/db ... m37b16.zip
wardner:
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/0/2/a/sk ... _win79.zip
wardnerj:
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/0/4/e/mm ... m37b15.zip


These are sores that were under previous zeroed scores, popup-scores.
I couldn't playback gameguru's wardnerj. No roms.

For further notice: If you find recording being clearly against rules, you can ask an editor to zero it. I can not edit scores myself.

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Post by dan » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:10 pm

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You can leech at stages 2 and 5, but you MUST finish that stage using same man
you were leeching with. 
(Or try to finish the stage with enough time to do it)
stages 4
When you repeat that you kill the rock monster 17 times until time is over, you obtain 51000 points and money.

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Post by destructor » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:35 am

Why don't change rules for Wardner. We can easy change in dispwitches live bonus.

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Post by DaviL » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:04 pm

A immediate rules that solve every problem is "you can kill a monster that can be regenereted forever, but you must be sure to finish the stage with the same life, or have enough time to do it"
So there is no more leeching problem.
Destructor, the problem is resolved, we all are happy and let us play until the end of tournament without intrusion or question every day about this game.
All replay on marp are regular so I don't see any problem to apply right now, to provent future problems.
At the end you can do everyything you want, nobody of us will care.
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Post by The TJT » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:20 pm

DaviL wrote:A immediate rules that solve every problem is "you can kill a monster that can be regenereted forever, but you must be sure to finish the stage with the same life, or have enough time to do it"
Yes, that's the intention of the current rule. I'm too lazy to change it, getting headache from Wardner's rules ](*,)

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Post by DaviL » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:28 pm

good TJT, now every problem is resolve and all present inp are valid!!
next week i will restart my training after 1 month...

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Post by sawys » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:42 pm

Hi :-D

The new game posted by jm2003 doesn't respect the special rule :
http://marp.retrogames.com/r/wardner
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/3/f/3/jm ... olf106.zip

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You can leech at stages 2 and 5, but you MUST finish that stage using same man you were leeching with.
(Or try to finish the stage with enough time to do it)
Explanations :
He leeched at stage 5 and died before reaching and killing the boss so he had not enough time to finish the stage


A NEW POINT OF LEECHING APPEARED IN THIS GAME :

Stage 4 : He leeched at the scale where 1up can be granted doing up and down and taking more than 10 lives and he finally died at the medium of the level because he lacks some time to finish the level (and he fall in the spikes stupidly).
At the end of the game, each life give bonus points (50.000 ?).
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Post by Chad » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:36 pm

sawys wrote:Hi :-D

The new game posted by jm2003 doesn't respect the special rule :
http://marp.retrogames.com/r/wardner
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/3/f/3/jm ... olf106.zip

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You can leech at stages 2 and 5, but you MUST finish that stage using same man you were leeching with.
(Or try to finish the stage with enough time to do it)
Explanations :
He leeched at stage 5 and died before reaching and killing the boss so he had not enough time to finish the stage
I've verified he dies on stage 5 at frame 97200 or so, but he also doesn't leech any more on the life he plays after leeching so what is the benefit of dieing there and not leeching more points? I guess the time bonus of the new life?
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Post by sawys » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:42 am

Answer is more gold more than time bonus.

if you stay between 15 and 30 sec more in the last level, then you can win very much gold which give you very much bonus points at the end of the game.
Eventually, we could count how much gold he won in the time he spent to reach the end of game
But if we consider the actual rule, he doesn't respect it sorry.
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Post by Chad » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:39 am

ok that makes sense, he did it again too, dies at the end and i guess getting a fresh timer gives more points.

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/f/e/7/jm ... olf106.zip
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Post by jm2003 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:35 am

Im spanish,my english isnt very good.I think i dont win more points with the time refreshing when i loss the firt live in the final boss because every life means 90000 points at the end of game.If i had only one second more on final boss...but dont worry ill try again and shall not post another inp until i finish the game with the first life.

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Post by sawys » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:25 pm

jm2003 wrote:Im spanish,my english isnt very good.I think i dont win more points with the time refreshing when i loss the firt live in the final boss because every life means 90000 points at the end of game.If i had only one second more on final boss...but dont worry ill try again and shall not post another inp until i finish the game with the first life.
Okay, thanks for the answer because we made a rule last year to avoid excessive leeching but you didn't respect it exactly. There was a time where 9.999.990 wasn't a dream ;-)
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Post by Chad » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:42 pm

jm2003 wrote:Im spanish,my english isnt very good.I think i dont win more points with the time refreshing when i loss the firt live in the final boss because every life means 90000 points at the end of game.If i had only one second more on final boss...but dont worry ill try again and shall not post another inp until i finish the game with the first life.
Remember in order to upload a lower score (probably you will get a lower score if you finish on one life) you must edit your previous scores to a score below that. Or an editor more confident about this rule than i, can zero the score that appears to break the special rules now.

http://marp.retrogames.com/r/wardner
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Post by JYD » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:41 am

Arff, with current special rule and this new leeching method, 9 999 990 pts and more are now possible .... :(
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Post by GHEMANT » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:37 pm

the only way for this super-leechable game is play with NO MISS ALL CLEAR.

Last year I had perform a "no miss all clear" with all bonus recaptured, all bonus recaptured and destroy all enemies and 0 gold falling (about 5.060.000), but with this new trick all these techniques are lost :cry:

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