Neo Bomberman Vs. scoring
Moderator: Chad
Neo Bomberman Vs. scoring
I've recorded a "decent" run on Vs. mode in Neo Bomberman, but I'm having the damndest time figuring out how to score it.
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The scoring system was implemented to prevent ties on Bomberman, Bomberman World, and Atomic Punk... but I don't think ties would be much of a problem in Neo Bomberman, since it's considerably easier to rack up wins. The current scoring system rewards draws, which is a fair way to score on the other games since you have a limited amount of lives... but in Neo Bomberman, where a draw just prolongs the game since SOMEONE has to win two games to take the "set"... well, like Ashuime said, if someone can get "stalling" down they can get a lot of points when they're not getting any wins. And that's another problem, since the match isn't over until someone wins two games, winning one and then beginning to "leech" gives the player a little leeway... if they finally screw up, their game isn't over, they can win on the next game.
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Therefore, for simplicity's sake, I feel that Neo Bomberman's Vs. mode should be scored by total number of wins/sets/crowns/whatever the hell you wanna call them. Not to mention it'll get rid of this headache I'm getting from trying to figure out how to apply this scoring when different CPU characters are winning games and prolonging the set....
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-BomberBBH
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lordbbh@aol.com
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The scoring system was implemented to prevent ties on Bomberman, Bomberman World, and Atomic Punk... but I don't think ties would be much of a problem in Neo Bomberman, since it's considerably easier to rack up wins. The current scoring system rewards draws, which is a fair way to score on the other games since you have a limited amount of lives... but in Neo Bomberman, where a draw just prolongs the game since SOMEONE has to win two games to take the "set"... well, like Ashuime said, if someone can get "stalling" down they can get a lot of points when they're not getting any wins. And that's another problem, since the match isn't over until someone wins two games, winning one and then beginning to "leech" gives the player a little leeway... if they finally screw up, their game isn't over, they can win on the next game.
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Therefore, for simplicity's sake, I feel that Neo Bomberman's Vs. mode should be scored by total number of wins/sets/crowns/whatever the hell you wanna call them. Not to mention it'll get rid of this headache I'm getting from trying to figure out how to apply this scoring when different CPU characters are winning games and prolonging the set....
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-BomberBBH
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lordbbh@aol.com
No kidding, although I think I'd prefer to have it done as follows:
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2 points for a win
-1 point for a loss
0 points for a draw of any sort
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The scores would be lower, but the draw-leech trick wouldn't work,
and you'd have less ties anyway.
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King Of Soldam,
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
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2 points for a win
-1 point for a loss
0 points for a draw of any sort
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The scores would be lower, but the draw-leech trick wouldn't work,
and you'd have less ties anyway.
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King Of Soldam,
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
Do you know the meaning of "KING"?<br>
I beleave you are just joking.most of your score is selecting bonus.<br>
so your real score is very little.any drunk guy can get 2,010,000 points at this game.<br>
I know that not so bad player can get 10million at this game with ease.<br>
"king" is not so cheap word. I know that my is too poor to be called "The KING".<br>
If you really want to see the KING, let you download S.Krogman's galaga,joustgod's joust,crash's crash
or Do-donpachi god's page's one or eclips's. mines are not enough.<br>
P.S.<br>
how to avoid decrease the time bonus at "bomber man world?".<br>
It is very unfair (disadvantage for all clearable player)bug.<br>
I could get 3 million easily but at this roms,2 million is not so easy.
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weavuspert@yahoo.co.jp
I beleave you are just joking.most of your score is selecting bonus.<br>
so your real score is very little.any drunk guy can get 2,010,000 points at this game.<br>
I know that not so bad player can get 10million at this game with ease.<br>
"king" is not so cheap word. I know that my is too poor to be called "The KING".<br>
If you really want to see the KING, let you download S.Krogman's galaga,joustgod's joust,crash's crash
or Do-donpachi god's page's one or eclips's. mines are not enough.<br>
P.S.<br>
how to avoid decrease the time bonus at "bomber man world?".<br>
It is very unfair (disadvantage for all clearable player)bug.<br>
I could get 3 million easily but at this roms,2 million is not so easy.
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weavuspert@yahoo.co.jp
Um, calm down Hisa. I'm pretty sure he was just joking. No need to
start ripping on people.
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As for the Bomberman World bug, I have no idea.
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-King of Chimera Beast
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lordbbh@aol.com
start ripping on people.
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As for the Bomberman World bug, I have no idea.
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-King of Chimera Beast

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lordbbh@aol.com
I always calm down.but I am too poor reader,wrighter,and speaker of English.<br>
my dictionary and translation system (cheap one)sometimes show me awful meaning.<br>
I disturbed the word of "KING OF SOLDAM".<br>
maybe my dictionary is not so good. actually "king" is much cheaper word.(at least weaker than Ace).<br>
I recognized "king" as a "ABSOLUTELY,INVINSIBLE,STRONGEST."and had not better use at joking.but it is
faulse.<br>
very sorry.maybe I am also a king.of course you are,BBH.
---for millions of kings---
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weavuspert@yahoo.co.jp
my dictionary and translation system (cheap one)sometimes show me awful meaning.<br>
I disturbed the word of "KING OF SOLDAM".<br>
maybe my dictionary is not so good. actually "king" is much cheaper word.(at least weaker than Ace).<br>
I recognized "king" as a "ABSOLUTELY,INVINSIBLE,STRONGEST."and had not better use at joking.but it is
faulse.<br>
very sorry.maybe I am also a king.of course you are,BBH.
---for millions of kings---
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weavuspert@yahoo.co.jp
OK - I've gone back to basic number of crowns won scoring. BBH - I
assume that's 12 for you, 7 for ashumie, and 4 for myself.
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Seeing that I believe I've lost this vote now
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GB9
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goldengameboy@yahoo.com
assume that's 12 for you, 7 for ashumie, and 4 for myself.
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Seeing that I believe I've lost this vote now

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GB9
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goldengameboy@yahoo.com
Hisa: Calm down, man. Yeah, I admit that I'm probably not nearly as
good at Soldam as any of the people who play it all the time. But, at
least, I'm better at it so far than anyone else who's submitted a
recording. You're welcome to toss out a 3,000,000-point recording on
it.
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As for the rest of you: Hmph. I think I'm going to have to try a
full-clear recording on vs. mode. I wonder what happens if you do
that...
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
good at Soldam as any of the people who play it all the time. But, at
least, I'm better at it so far than anyone else who's submitted a
recording. You're welcome to toss out a 3,000,000-point recording on
it.
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As for the rest of you: Hmph. I think I'm going to have to try a
full-clear recording on vs. mode. I wonder what happens if you do
that...
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
Oh yeah, and one other thing on Soldam: 600k on it without a bonus
(starting from scratch). Not too shabby, although I think I can get
a million at least.
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
(starting from scratch). Not too shabby, although I think I can get
a million at least.
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
Geez Hisa-Chan, let it go already. Stop tormenting poor Ashuime. 
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And to get even more off-topic from the subject, good job on finishing
Cadash (what's the advantage of not upgrading the armor?), even
though that is a LOT of leeching. But you recorded the game on the
Cadash (French) romset, which is cadashf. But you uploaded under
cadash. Could you move the recording to that romname please?
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-wannabe King of Shock Troopers
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lordbbh@aol.com

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And to get even more off-topic from the subject, good job on finishing
Cadash (what's the advantage of not upgrading the armor?), even
though that is a LOT of leeching. But you recorded the game on the
Cadash (French) romset, which is cadashf. But you uploaded under
cadash. Could you move the recording to that romname please?
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-wannabe King of Shock Troopers
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lordbbh@aol.com
I BOW DOWN TO KING! geezus Hisa, can you tone down the arrogance
level a tad? Yes, you are very good at videogames. You are a goddamn
legend in fact. But must you rub it in so damn much?
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- JSW, King nothing
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usagi@dingoblue.net.au
level a tad? Yes, you are very good at videogames. You are a goddamn
legend in fact. But must you rub it in so damn much?
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- JSW, King nothing
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usagi@dingoblue.net.au
Goddamn..??<br>
All difference between you and I is "know the WR or not".<br>
I know all my recordings are much inferior than gamest record.<br>
even do-donpachi god page's recordings are not enough!<br>
so--I only pointing Total beginner calling himself as a KING.<br>
Why am I so blamed??<br>
KING OF SPELLMISS AND POOR LANGUAGE.
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weavuspert@yahoo.co.jp
All difference between you and I is "know the WR or not".<br>
I know all my recordings are much inferior than gamest record.<br>
even do-donpachi god page's recordings are not enough!<br>
so--I only pointing Total beginner calling himself as a KING.<br>
Why am I so blamed??<br>
KING OF SPELLMISS AND POOR LANGUAGE.
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weavuspert@yahoo.co.jp
Bah, I'm not a "total beginner" at Soldam. (Either that, or everyone
else sucks worse than I do at it... besides Hisa, obviously, but I
don't give a flying Fudgesicle what he thinks.)
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As for "tormenting"... yeah, right. I was waiting for someone to try
and beat my score. I just wish it hadn't been so thoroughly.
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And, once more, by "King" I didn't mean that I'm invincible. Check
your world history, Hisa. Kings are rarely invincible. They're just
dominating that area... which I was until you stomped my score into
the ground.
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Anyway...
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King (sort of) of Money Puzzle Exchanger, vs. computer mode...
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
else sucks worse than I do at it... besides Hisa, obviously, but I
don't give a flying Fudgesicle what he thinks.)
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As for "tormenting"... yeah, right. I was waiting for someone to try
and beat my score. I just wish it hadn't been so thoroughly.
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And, once more, by "King" I didn't mean that I'm invincible. Check
your world history, Hisa. Kings are rarely invincible. They're just
dominating that area... which I was until you stomped my score into
the ground.
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Anyway...
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King (sort of) of Money Puzzle Exchanger, vs. computer mode...
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
Mr. Brian (heh): You're right. This can't be planned... the first
time.
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Of course, now that I know it torques Hisa so, I'll have to do it over
and over again.
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King of (insert game here that Hisa hasn't played yet and that I still
have first place on)...
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peng@demongate.ath.cx
time.
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Of course, now that I know it torques Hisa so, I'll have to do it over
and over again.
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King of (insert game here that Hisa hasn't played yet and that I still
have first place on)...
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peng@demongate.ath.cx